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I will take a shot Die Deterioration with machine doubling  I am not sure. I look forward to seeing though |
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It does appear as something is there, but better images will help. Here is a 1966 DDO I found you might check to see if the doubling on your coin is similar. I know it won't be identical, but close. I'm assuming it is a proof half? The frosting on them make it harder to see a doubled die. You just have to be persistent to get the image you want. Try rotating the coin 180 degrees in the opposite angle you want to take your image. The light will fall better on some doubled dies that way. ADDEDI just realized something. The 1965 was the year of the special mint sets. So this coin can't be a proof coin, but better than a circulated coin. I don't have one to compare the size of the devices with. Some images of more of the devices at one so if someone else could post an image of, I might be able to make an overlay to see how the devices compare in size. But it looks promising. Edited by coop
04/02/2009 7:34 pm
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I would say it's a doubled die there;s notching and seperation indicated on the u as well as the other letters. Look at the s the doublimg is raised and rounded nice find JAZEC Image:  200941_8.jpg44.71 KB Edited by Jazzcoins
04/02/2009 09:21 am
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maybe this will help decide. I hate windows vista!   |
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How's that overlay coming coop?
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Edited by wrongalot
04/03/2009 6:09 pm
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Rockdude: It going no where with out an image of a normal one. I don't have one of the Special mint set 1965 Half dollars. I've got a BU Business Strike. But looking at it, it appears to be a minor Doubled die also. Unlike Wrongalot's. More like the 1966 image I posted. Close notching on the tops of the W in WE, 4:00 on the loop of the R, Top right edges on the U on TRUST and West Tail of the S. There is Machine Doubling on the reverse. I'll try to post some images over the weekend. Got to hit the hay now as I have to get up a 2:30 AM to go to work. But will do the images. ADDEDHere is the image I promised. Keep in mind this is a minor doubled die. A spread vertical.  Edited by coop
04/04/2009 4:48 pm
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Your coin? I think it needs a closer look. The obvious marks on the corners of the devices aren't visible on your images, but the devices look wider on your coin so it maybe a class 6 doubled die. But nothing for sure from the images. Try checking out the same locations of the notches on the two coins I posted and see if there is any evidence there of doubling?
The images of my 1965 show minor doubling. It is so minor I can see it with my scope, but can't get a decent image with a camera. I put the coin back into the collection because it is so minor.
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Common people this coin is definetly a doubled die look at the S it;s so obvious a doubled die indeed nice find wrongalot JAZEC Image: 200943_123.jpg38.57 KB Edited by Jazzcoins
04/05/2009 10:21 am
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Thank you Jazz, thank you also coop, I am 99.9% sure it is a DDO, the S and T show prominently, and the notching is really strong on the U, S, and T. Thanks again. |
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Ok, questions, does anyone think it is worth slabbing? I have looked on the internet ever since I found this one, and I have not been able to find a DDO for the 65 sms Kennedy half, has anyone seen one, besides mine? What do you think it may be worth? Is it too minor to worry about, or enough to keep? |
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Wrongalot, Just an observation that based on what I see, your coin appears to be different than the markers coop has posted for a 65 DDO. I'm always looking for distinctive notching to be conclusive--otherwise I risk brain meltdown when attempting to be conclusive with inadequate evidence. Endless controversy can be a sign that more data is needed.  So here's are a few examples of doubled dies on Kennedy half dollars with obvious notching.  (photo credit: foundinrolls) As I'm a world variety collector, here's the sort of notching I look for in doubled dies:  Or it could even be complete separation of the design elements on a coin:  By my of thinking, doubled dies often have something dramatic about them--very little squinting is needed. |
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I'm not agreeing that it is a doubled die. I think it needs a better look to be sure that it is. Comparing a SMS/proof could be entirely different design than a business strike coin. So I would need to see a good close up of wrongalot's coin and a SMS coin to see it they are the same size devices. I'm more of a Cent variety specialist than a half dollar one.
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Ok, again, so does anyone have a suggestion of someone I could send the coin to, in order to find out for sure, and not someone who will charge an arm and a leg?
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