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*** Edited by Staff to Add Year / Mintmark / Denomination to Title. It's very important to have in the title. ***  This might be my most favourite coin in my whole (admittedly extremely small) collection. A 1967 Roosevelt dime (incidentally, whilst you're looking at it, does that designers initial mark look for all the world like there has been some sort of double die during it being.minted?) edit: corrected my using the words mint mark when I actually meant the designers initials, which I believe shpuld be JS? And VERY readable, spaced out. Mine looks squashed up, and this is the very clean side of thr coin, so its clearly been that way since it left the mint.Anyway, I hope you like this coin as much as I do! The app I found has an AI grading tool using Sheldon scale, and the head side comes out as Mint State! ( Not the reverse, obviously! If the other side looked as clean and shiny, then thats what I'd get). Clearly tail side is quite blemished, and whilst I don't want to remove all evidence of it ever having been used, I'd like to clean off a little of the green, but retain that patina but get it shinier. I submitted it to the AI, and even with that blemished side the coin was getting AU-58. edit: using another photograph and it's come back with a 45 instead. Probably more realistic, I think it was putting too much weight on the shiny side being representative of both sides.What I was thinking was a bicarbonate soda and soft cloth rub? Anyone care to share their thoughts? I do have plenty of worthless UK copper coins to practise on, shpuld ypu recommend any attempt on this beaut! My collection of valuable/treasured coins is: * 1967 Dime (pictured above, AU-58 XF-45. One side looks mint, the other side rather blemished) * 1887 UK shilling XF-40 * 1837 UK fourpence G-4 These gradings come from the AI of the CoinSnap app. Is it actually any good? Does anyone use it? Basically is it worth paying for after my trial ends! Thanks for your time. Edited by noscere 10/13/2023 10:02 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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To me, it just looks like a common dime with environmental damage worth bullion value.  to the CCF!
Edited by Coinfrog 10/13/2023 08:35 am
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  with Frog here. sorry to say here, but you may want to stop using that app to grade coins - this dime if fay and away from a MS60 (MS anything) However if you have a need to wash your coin use pure 100% Acetone to soak in over night - it will not harm your coins.
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@nos, first welcome to CCF. Second, here are a few thoughts beyond what others have already responded:
1. Never clean coins or rub them in any way. Ever. 2. This coin doesn't have a mintmark. 3. This coin isn't made from silver so the bullion value is less than face value. Either way, it is only worth ten cents.
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Staff - thanks for the edit. I did read the rules, but neglected to put the coin in the title - thank you for correcting my error and I shall endeavour to be more observant in future. Thank you for your comments folks! Very helpful. I suspected that the app was wrong (sure, the shiny side looks great, but the other side, nah!) which is basically the reason that I joined this forum, so I could get the opinions of people who know a whole lot more about this hobby than I do! The estimated/suggested price range for my particular example of the '67 dime is £0.43 - £11 (I resubmitted the grading using different photograph of the coin, and it came back with XF40). The app is getting these prices from the market - I'm trying to find out where/whom it is monitoring in order for it to determine the 30-day average market price it claims to be. The range for the MS60 graded coin was £1 - £696. I'd like to know who is paying nearly 700 quid for a standard 1967 dime though &  . It's not a silver dime, just a typical 1967 variety. Regarding the 1967 coin however, these were only minted in one location and famously were minted without a minted mark. Its the only dime to be minted without one (I forget the range, 1967 for sure, but I think 68 and 69 as well? I was researching this last month when I was given the coin). So because ofthae lack of mint mark, it does make the 1967 coin rather more interesting to a collecter than, say, a 1970 or a 1960. I didnt mean mint mark, though - I meant the other mark, the designer initial(s) to the left of the date - to me it looks like it's doubled and/or ridged compared to another 1967 dime. Also the wording of In God We Trust looks a little double-stampy. Maybe its my imagination, but when I zoomed in more, the Liberty is raised a little more. But definately the designers initial is stamped wrong. It should be clearly readable, and mine is not. And its not patina. Thanks again fir your help, comments and time. Nice to meet you!
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I stand corrected, obviously not silver! 
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https://craftbuds.com/1967-roosevel...20the%20time. The interesting info about the 67 dime, I'm probably telling this information to nobody, you're all going to know more about this than me. But I find it fascinating, the 1965 Coinage Act was when they changed the metal content of the dime. It became the nickel/copper composite that remains largely the same today. The first dimes were put into circulation on January 30th, the anniversary of Roosevelt's birthday. Over two billion of these coins were minted in Philadelphia in 1967. That mint was the only mint to make the dimes in 1967, so they didn't put a mint mark on it! Makes my coin special in my eyes anyway. & 
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For common U.S. coin prices, you can check the Red Book, gray sheet, and PCGS.com. AI apps might be decent for coin identification, but they won't be accurate for grading. I say that as a software engineer. We are decades away from AI being worthwhile at a task like that, and grading can be subjective. As others have mentioned, pure acetone for coin cleaning. Not nail polish remover, you need the stuff from an auto or hardware store. If your coin has patina, that corrosion might have pitted or damaged the metal surface. Stripping it might reveal a damaged surface. There was a strong Doubled Die Obverse on certain 1967 dimes. You can observe it on the letters of In God We Trust. We can definitely help with that, but you would need to post a sharp, in-focus image of what you are seeing. That is a challenge with a phone. I have a cheap little magnifier that I use for that job. http://www.varietyvista.com/07%20Ro...7PDDO001.htm
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This is a common coin that is damaged.
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Note that 1967 dimes in VF to XF grades are still fairly common in circulation in the US. You would have a reasonable chance of finding one by getting about 100 dimes from a bank.
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From the craftbuds article: Quote:This emblematic Roosevelt design superseded the renowned Barber dime, a coin that enjoyed a near three-decade stint prior to its discontinuation. They must have meant Mercury dimes.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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The coin has exceedingly little wear for the date. Despite its 2 1/4 billion mintage very very few of the survivors have less.
Only about 900,000,000 of these survive and they are all heavily worn and most are culls.
Unfortunately the kind of corrosion this specimen has can most probably not be removed. This kind of corrosion affects the metal underneath it.
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 To CCF! I am just seeing a normal Dime with heavy environmental damage, on the reverse.
Errers and Varietys.
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