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Green Spots On A 1968 (Or 69) Kennedy Half What Is Is Bad Clad Job.

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 Posted 01/05/2024  10:23 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add 1983 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
What causes this bad cladding or thin cladding,bad metal mix ? Please I'm trying to learn don't make fun of me,there's so many coins I looked at and saw this one but didn't save the front image,it's about the same amount of green on the front but now I can't find the coin on the site again to take the front pic,it's a 1968 or 69 I remember though.


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 Posted 01/05/2024  10:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DOCC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Seems off color for Verdigris but is distributed like corrosion. Could always be some form of adhesive that got on there.
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 Posted 01/05/2024  10:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1983 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I thought it looked like glue too and not typical green spots so thought I'd ask here.
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 Posted 01/05/2024  11:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gesundheit !
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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If it's 1968 or 1969, then the two cladding layers are 80% silver. That still doesn't seem like a normal color for 80Ag-20Cu alloy. It's either an external substance like glue, or something that bonded to the surface and left a chemically altered stain when remove.
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 Posted 01/05/2024  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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 Posted 01/05/2024  11:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1983 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes I am thinking adhesive or paint too,do silver coins go like that ? I have seen green spots on the pre 1965 stuff but not that color and not to often.
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 Posted 01/05/2024  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DOCC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Corrosion on silver alloys is always a possibility although much rarer than their copper counterparts. I've seldom encountered with my conservation work and when I have, it tends to come off fairly easy without pitting. I think you are right to question the color 1983, not typical of corrosion so more inclined to think adhesive, etc. Something Acetone would quickly consume.
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Who ya gonna call? GHOSTBUSTERS!
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The way that it lays over some devices, but then runs up to the edge of others, makes me think it was splattered with liquid or gunk. Tarnish and toning are atmospheric (for the most part, anyway), and that phenomenon visually lays across the surface differently than splatter.

I wouldn't rule out the detergent wash from the mint that causes milk spots. But I would be more inclined to place my bet on something pulling copper out of that alloy into a blue compound. Possibly some kind of salt or base.
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I think it's PVC damage.
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I agree with the PVC damage. Old PVC flips leached chemicals and leave this green gunk on the coins.
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I agree with those that mentioned PVC damage. Give it a bath in Acetone if you are going to keep the coin.
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 Posted 01/06/2024  12:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like corrosion.
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 Posted 01/06/2024  09:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1983 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The owner is a coin guy and got a message that he thinks it's Verdigris so now I don't know I tend to favour the PCV soulution by the guys here,I'll look for it later it's buried in the website somewhere and will take a while to find again.
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Looks like PVC damage to me as well.
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