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Here is another I need some of your expertise with identifying. 50 cent Pattern. Hoping you can help with specifics. Thanks in advance.   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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 United States
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Thanks jacrispies. I inherited a pretty sizeable collection from my grandfather. Looking to learn and understand as much as I can. More to come for sure. thanks |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Gosh almighty. I haven't even stopped poking around for that 1870 $1 yet and here's another one! Looks genuine to my eyes. I'm sure you know to be very careful with these and don't mess with them in any way. Here's a good site to do some research https://uspatterns.store.turbify.net/patcon.html |
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United States
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Absolutely, being VERY careful and not messing at all.
Locked away at this point after the forum discussion.
Thanks
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I've only found one Judd-941 with the cap aligned under the S, from the Denali collection - https://www.pristineauction.com/a17...oured-Toninghttps://uspatterns.store.turbify.ne...0521066.html says only 3-4 are known. This is indeed pretty crazy. Is there also a dime pattern in your grandfather's coins? These were apparently sold in sets, and you seem to have the 1870 dollar, half dollar and quarter, all in copper. They have probably never been catalogued and nobody knew they existed until now. Please keep us updated on what you decide to do with these. |
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I don't know much about these, but it appears to be a truly rare item. Handle with great care, and let us know what you end up doing with them.
Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.artToo many hobbies .... too much work .... not enough time. |
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United States
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@kbbpll...thanks again. This is why I joined this forum. Great stuff. Thank you.
Unfortunately, no dime. Just these 3.
So...here is my next question. What is the next step? Get graded, stash away in the safe, etc? Keep in mind, still a newbie to this game but loving every minute of it!
Thank you
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Cool heritage there Pauly  Quote:
Get graded? Yes! (Either PCGS, NGC, or Anacs) Quote:
Stash away in the safe? Probably, if genuine (looks ok to me) then they all carry good to insane value...  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Use PCGS. They will bring the best money for this type of material. Even though the coins may all details.
Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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United States
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United States
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All I can say is WOW. If these three coins are all genuine (they appear to be sharp, right font, etc...) then these are pretty major coins. There are just a handful known on all of them tops and they will all be valuable if authentic (think thousands of dollars). They definitely need to be graded though, even if they get a details designation.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Marvelous coin.
I'd suggest contacting a major auctioneer before submitting, and perhaps have PCGS conserve the coins before encapsulating.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 Any major auction house will be able to encapsulate the coins for you. That will save the major hassle if you are looking to sell the coins.
Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If you're not planning on selling, an auction house probably won't handle it for you. If you are selling, definitely contact Heritage, Great Collections, Stack's, etc and see what they'll do for you. Personally I would keep them, especially if you're not in dire financial straits. While all three of these are genuinely rare, if you look at 1869 and 1870 https://uspatterns.store.turbify.net/pat182.html there are a bazillion of them, and my impression is that there aren't that many pattern collectors, so the prices don't reflect the rarity. Which is unfortunate, since these coins are so cool! Others with better knowledge can chime in on this, but to me it appears that between the three of them you have around $10k worth, less if they all get "cleaned" or another Details grade. That said, I would want them professionally conserved if possible, attributed, graded and encapsulated for preservation. I think we've accurately determined the Judd varieties, so it shouldn't be too difficult for a TPG to confirm the attributions. If conservation is possible and appropriate, ANACS would be the far cheaper option, as they charge a flat rate of $59 for up to 20 coins, and they did a great job on my silver coins (but that was my one and only submission ever). PCGS charges 3% and NGC charges 4% of the coins' value plus handling or evaluation fees, so you could be looking at $300-400 for that service. If you're looking to sell, PCGS or NGC would likely bring more $ which could make up for the extra costs. Although if I was a hardcore pattern collector I would be evaluating the coin and not whose slab it was in. |
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Valued Member
United States
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@kbbpll. I'm going to hold on to these. I will look at going the ANACS route for professional conservation.
Thanks everyone for the advice and comments.
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