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If Silver Doesn't Corrode What Happened To This 1959-D Half Dollar?

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Is 10% copper all it takes for corrosion to set in?

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Silver and copper both corrode, but it's not red when they do. My guess is that there was something iron-based on the coin's surface that then oxidized.
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Agree with spruett001.
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Where did you hear that silver does not corrode? Of course it does.
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Silver is corrosion-resistant, but not corrosion-proof. Bury a piece of silver in the ground and it will - slowly - start to turn back into the piece of silver ore from whence it came. Gold is "corrosion-proof" in terms of normal Earth-surface conditions, but can still corrode under certain chemically unusual circumstances.

The 10% copper content of US coinage silver (or the 7.5% content of sterling silver) does weaken the resistance to corrosion as a whole; as a general rule, alloys are always more corrosion-prone than pure elements. Some alloys (like stainless steel) may appear to be more corrosion-resistant than their pure-element counterparts, but that's because the alloy is designed to oxidize very quickly, and this oxide forms an airtight layer preventing further oxidation.

For this coin, I'm seeing two different corrosion effects: the brown, from (presumably) environmental damage, or perhaps fire damage. Second, we have PVC damage, in the form of the green goo seen around the rims.
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Very good analysis.
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It really depends what you mean by gold. If you mean pure .999 (or .9999) fine gold, it does not corrode or develop a patina. Impure gold such as that in US coins, jewelry, etc, can develop a light patina which does prevent further deterioration. The patina is very similar to the color of gold and is next to impossible to visually determine on purer (18k+) gold.
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Everything degrades in time. Some things are far more stable than others. Copper hydroxide becomes copper oxide, vaterite; calcium carbonate and gold given sufficient time will become auric sulfate or some other product of degradation. Silver is much more reactive than gold and copper much more than silver. Francium-223 undergoes radioactive degradation at a rate of half its mass every 22 minutes.

Nothing lasts forever. Some environments cause much faster disintegration than others.
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Interesting analysis guys.

Just never seen a "rusty" silver coin before.
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