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Quote:Although 2008 is the accepted first occurrence of the Burnished ASE I will probably get the 2011 version since it was in the 25th Year Anniversary Set The 25th Anniversary set is the only example of an Uncirculated ASE that isn't a West Point, it's San Francisco. At this is also the only year with Uncirculated made by 2 mints, as they did mint a W. Everything that sounds right. That Enhanced Uncirculated is one of my favorite ASEs based just on appearance.
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Well Done Boba Debt, Your diving right in... The American silver eagles series is an Awesome challenge to collect, the 2011, 2012 and 2013 sets alone hold many delightful Awesome examples of the team, IMO, That one Design holds,.....  As far as Nomenclature goes, I have Always called the " burnished " examples Uncirculated examples, The U S Mint has their own verbiage they use, It is confusing.. |
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Quote:Originally Posted By Gilly : The 25th Anniversary set is the only example of an Uncirculated ASE that isn't a West Point, it's San Francisco. At this is also the only year with Uncirculated made by 2 mints, as they did mint a W. Everything that sounds right. That Enhanced Uncirculated is one of my favorite ASEs based just on appearance. I actually considered getting the 2011-S UC ASE because I noticed that was the only one like it and it is still a possibility Although the OCD part of me just wants to go with the 4 minted versions from 2013 Quote:
Originally Posted By Morgans Dad:
Well Done Boba Debt,
Your diving right in...
The American silver eagles series is an Awesome challenge to collect, the 2011, 2012 and 2013 sets alone hold many delightful Awesome examples of the team, IMO, That one Design holds,.....
As far as Nomenclature goes, I have Always called the " burnished " examples Uncirculated examples, The U S Mint has their own verbiage they use, It is confusing.. A while ago I posted that it was easy for me to "catch up" my collection because I'm not a completest and now it's just basic yearly maintenance purchases with the occasion lucky find from my want list The possibility that there might be 2026 Semiquincentennial Morgans, Peace dollars and ASEs peaked my interest in those coins The whole reason I collect coins is because when I was 9 year old kin in 1976 I was amazed by the bicentennial coins As someone that really only collects types coins or commemoratives, 2026 is going to be an awesome year for me  It has been fun to research and figure out which versions or the Dollar coins I wanted to collect The topics on this forum were my main source for research and when a subject hadn't been discussed the members of this community were very quick to help That is why this place is AWESOME PS - If I every buy a 1995-W Proof ASE I promise to post a video of me jail breaking it so I can stick it in a air-tite for my CAPS page 
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Good work Boba! Enjoy the history of the ASE, there is plenty of it! Some of it will make you wonder what the US Mint was thinking. Finding all the little nuances along the way have only added to my enjoyment of collecting these coins. |
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Thanks Mojojojo Your chart helped me understand ASEs more than any other resource out there I eventually plan to find a way to incorporate the set info into my version of the chart, in case I decide to expand my collection beyond the 10 current type coins I plan to buy to "catch up" my collection I will admit the Uncirculated / Burnished and Brilliant Uncirculated jargon is the most confusing to me but at this time it's not on my radar since I only really want the 2013 -W UC ASE Unless there is an official "Brilliant Uncirculated" version I don't know about  I also look forward to seeing if they every do the an Enhanced Proof of if they come up with something new other than Privy marked coins Edited by Boba Debt
03/03/2025 2:17 pm
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My notes show the first instance of a burnished (uncirculated) W Mint mark as 2006, not 2008. Mercanti's Book confirms the 2006-W Burnished was part of the three coin 20th Anniversary Set and was available for sale individually. Mintage was approximately 468,000.
No proof or burnished examples struck in 2009. No burnished struck in 2010.
" Even a clock that's stopped is right twice a day. "
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03/03/2025 3:29 pm
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Boba Debt Stated, Quote: " Unless there is an official "Brilliant Uncirculated" version I don't know about ". My listed example ( above ) of the 2013 releases, an Enhanced Uncirculated West Point was released officially. " #39-2013-W-ENH/UNC " Besides the 2013-West point - " burnished- Unc ". For some reason the Uncirculated versions are My Absolute favorite examples, ....  |
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Edited by Boba Debt
03/04/2025 2:52 pm
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Boba Debt,
I am thinking We are talking about 2- two different offerings.
I am speaking about the 2013-West Point issued Enhanced Uncirculated, on My list #39.
Your speaking about the 2013-West Point Burnished example , on my list as #42, No?
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No, I'm talking about when the mint or sellers refer to uncirculated coins as Uncirculated, Burnished, or Brilliant Uncirculated
It seems like up till about 2006/8 the bullion and minted ASEs were referred to as UNCIRCULATED
Then in 2006/8 the mint started to call uncirculated mint coins BURNISHED
But then they used the work UNCIRCULATED to describe the 2013 Enhanced Uncirculated Coin
The whole BRILLIANT UNCIRCULATED description seems to be made up and not an actual mint designated finish because I can't remember reading it used in any specification for a coin
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Annnnd this again. It's impossible to get everyone on the same page. Here's my 2 cents worth and you get what you pay for: Quote:
It seems like up till about 2006/8 the bullion and minted ASEs were referred to as UNCIRCULATED . I disagree. Prior to 2006 they were called either proof or bullion. There were no special finishes until 2006 as well, the reverse proof in the 20th Anniversary set. The collectors market was pretty confused with the US Mint term "Uncirculated" as no ASE is meant for circulation. The "burnished" name originated from the mint referring to the "special burnished planchets" used to make the Uncirculated ASEs. So the various terms used are "Uncirculated" (capital U), burnished, which means "Uncirculated", then you also see people using little "u" uncirculated for bullion as well as BU and brilliant uncirculated the same as any other US coin grade, applying it generally to bullion. As far as the Enhanced Uncirculated, that is a beautiful coin, very unique. They haven't used that finish type a whole lot, and generally were done around this same time. Burnished planchets with a lot of cool details to it. That's a very special finish and really pretty hard to mistake it for something else. |
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Gilly stated, Quote: " As far as the Enhanced Uncirculated, that is a beautiful coin, very unique. They haven't used that finish type a whole lot, and generally were done around this same time. Burnished planchets with a lot of cool details to it. That's a very special finish and really pretty hard to mistake it for something else. " I could not agree more on This Enhanced Uncirculated 2013- West Point released version is an Awesome, Unique Version, Especially in hand, ....  As far as the Uncirculated " nomenclature goes Collector's will use the terms they are Usually comfortable with, Some of the Collecting community Might not agree, Or have Another idea, It's All good... Gilly lays out the path Most collector's select to follow, Whatever the choice is, People have differing views and Here We express those views in hopes of All learning and gaining the knowledge we thirst for during our adventures in numismatics, Thanks Gilly, |
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Has the US Mint specification section ever used the word "burnished" to describe the finish of the coin? Like the way it has Reverse Proof for this coin  |
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Has the US Mint specification section ever used the word "burnished" to describe the finish of the coin?
I didn't believe so, it's always been "Uncirculated" (capital U). Again the mint described the coin as having "specially burnished blanks". People picked up on that and started calling them "burnished" as being slightly less confusing, and I don't necessarily disagree with that thought, but causes confusion. IDK if it's any less confusing than the term Uncirculated. But no, the Mint never called it calls them "Burnished" as in the finish. The official terms when referring to ASEs from the mint are Bullion Uncirculated Proof Reverse Proof Enhanced Reverse Proof Enhanced Uncirculated I think that is the entire list. Anyone throwing out another term is leaving it up to interpretation. I would comment that "bullion" isn't really a finish. It looks like "Uncirculated", but it's not an actual "finish".
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 This has been a cause of confusion for two decades now and would make a great nerdy Quantum Leap episode for us numismatists: send Scott Bakula back to 2006 and thump the marketer in the head that put "specially burnished blanks" into the marketing text. Then he could get spirited to a Texas quail hunting ranch and grab Dick Cheney's shotgun.
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03/08/2025 11:38 am
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