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Me either but it seems pretty complete with comments from the finder so doubt there is much more info about than that article. Interesting post!
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Thanks Nelrak for the comment. You're right; it is pretty complete, but I guess I'm just curious about where it is today. Seems that perhaps the original finder might still have it, but you would think that the hobby in general would pick up on someone trying to get $175k for this.
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This looks like it is a large regular prewar mintmark as in 1941 San Francisco, there were two size s mintmarks and this appears to be the larger mintmark to the right of Monticello which is very much scarcer than the small s located to the right of Monticello as well. Another thing is that it was not discovered by Mr Firth. Credit on the discovery should really go to the guy who brought it to him with questions. Wonder what Mr Frith bought it for? A dime? The provenance looks convincing, but a better photo would be nice. Seems I have heard this story before. Sure is a well worn looking nickel. I'd like to see it get graded today. I have heard that War Nickels can be found on Copper Nickel planchets and the other way around as well but ya know, I just smell a dead carp somehow.  If it is real, not to worry, it is not a part of the regular set anyway. Because it was not a coin minted for collectors or minted and intended for circulation by the San Francisco mint. Sort of falls under the 1913 Liberty nickel class but very circulated. Why didn't somebody who collects coins find it before it became VG in grade? Of course, I would be just happy as could be to find one, yes indeed. |
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Wouldn't this be considered a mule? Or does a mule have to be accidental? This was obviously produced intentionally, as there really is no other way these two dies could have been paired up otherwise.
And thanks for your input, Wheezy! I know things like this are not what you keep track of, but I thought you might find it interesting nonetheless. I too would love to have one of these; even though there is no room for it in my Dansco! Wonder if there is more than one of them? Hmmmmm.....
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07/10/2009 07:30 am
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I just want to make one thing perfectly clear, I am not at expert at anything, except maybe goofin' off.  There is a gentleman that I wrote to a few times that I think has a ton more knowledge than I on Jeffersons. Brian Ribar. He has co authored a book I own and use. I just wrote him inviting him to take a look at this topic. Maybe he'll join us if he has not already become a member. |
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I have heard of Brian; he knows his stuff! Looking forward to hearing what he thinks.
OK Wheezy, you aren't an expert! But you know a heck of a lot more about Jeffersons than pretty much anyone else on here. I might go through more of them than anybody, but you probably study more of them than anybody!
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Paul,
Interesting theory!
It doesn't have the hole in the lower left leg of the "R" in Pluribus, but not all Hennings had that feature. It has the rough look of a Henning. But if it is a Henning, why only one known? Did Henning realize early on that the coin he was striking didn't exist, and had all of them destroyed? Don't think so; if he caught that he would have caught the 44P without the mintmark. I don't know; maybe Brian Ribar can shed some light on it.
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I recall reading an article about this coin in the New York Times in the early 1970's.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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07/11/2009 12:01 am
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Just an update, I heard back from Brian Ribar, he has not heard of it but referred me to James Wiles. I wrote to him. I'll let you all know what comes of it.
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Thanks Wheezy; I've been keeping an eye on the thread to see if you heard anything!
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Got a quick reply from the other fellow James Wiles, but I have asked his permission to quote his reply and have not heard back from him yet. I can say this when he writes back, we will still be wondering.
I'll edit in the near future.
Permission granted:
James Wiles wrote:
Wheezydog,(my real name withheld)
I really don't know anymore than you do. It has been known for quite sometime, but no confirmation copy has ever turned up. It would be interesting to see what the TPGs would say about it today. I would also like to see some much higher quality photos. We could begin a search of 1941-S reverses to see if the die can be located. As well as a search for 1942-S obverses. If such matches could be found, then it would go a long way to authenticate the piece as a transitional. Otherwise it will probably be labelled has a pattern or trial.
Thanks,
James Wiles
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07/15/2009 11:10 am
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Wheezy,
Thanks for the research! I guess we won't find out anything more, at least for awhile. Oh well; maybe another one will turn up someday!
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wheezydog, This "book" you spoke of , the one Brian A. Ribar co-authored, is it the 2nd edition He wrote with John A. Wexler" The best of the Jefferson nickel Doubled Die Varieties"? If so, this is one very informative book! |
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