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How Long Before LMCs Show Up In Bulk Bins?

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Poll Question
Now that the reverse has permanently changed on the Lincoln Cent - how long will it be before we start seeing the memorial reverse showing up in bulk bins at our local coin stores?

edited to add: NOW

Poll Choices
 5 years
 10 years
 20 years
 50+ years
 '59-'82 coppers will, but no zincs
 never
 NOW

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 Posted 08/02/2010  05:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tnwalker10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does anyone remember how long it took before wheat-back cents were starting to be offered in bulk bins in coin stores? I was a kid then but I remember wheat-backs being fairly common 10 years after production ended. I don't remember them being that common 20 years (1978) after production ended and face value then was worth more than the intrinsic value.
It's been almost 30 years and memorial back copper cents are still very common in circulation, and intrinsic value is worth more than face value.
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Here is the big difference:

Wheat cents (total produced) - 75 billion
Memorial Cents (total produced) - 462 billion

There were 6 times as many Memorials produced than wheats, I think they will be around a long long time.

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The_Duke,

I can remember when coppers comprised 20-25% of all rolls just a few years ago. I now average less than 15% copper. As a comparison, I find less than 1% wheats. Do you think this is more due to saturation of zincs? Or hoarders such as myself pulling them from circulation?
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At my recent coin show, I say BU 60s and 70s Memorials in the 4 for a dollar bin. Don't know if there were any takers. So my answer would be NOW (not one of the choices)
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Are you considering the "bulk bin" to be an upgrade or downgrade in status? You can find them in 2x2 notebooks at stores/shows, sorted by year, or in 2x2 boxes. Just like other coins.

So I'd be voting "now", too.
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I think it will take about 10 years before you see Avg Circ LMC's like you would wheaties in a bargain bin.

Heres one no one is thinking about. How long until WEQ are in bargain bins. They've been out of production for 10 years now. Only problem is they still saturate the quarter field. I'd say about 30-40% of quarters I see are WEQ's.

Still one day we will all wake up and realize they are becoming harder and harder to find.

Just a thought. No one can know when until its already to late.
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Interesting thread. In my opinion common, run of the mill Memorial cents will take a very long time until people start paying premiums for them, but nice high grade MS Memorial cents seem like they will do well, and I have seen some that are fairly high priced at shows. I doubt clad dimes and quarters in circulated condition will ever be worth much, as the common date silver Washington quarters ate only in high demand due to their silver content, and I don't really see the clad quarters or dime's metallic content to ever surpass their face value.
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Yea thats a very good point, I guess we will see what happens.
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At my recent coin show, I say BU 60s and 70s Memorials in the 4 for a dollar bin. Don't know if there were any takers. So my answer would be NOW (not one of the choices)


Boy, I'd love to get my hands on those if they were nice examples...
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 Posted 08/02/2010  3:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carmykle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Guys, I've alrady seen them in dealers bulk bins. They are there now.
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Amazing. I would never have thought they were already in the bulk bins. We only have a few coin shops and just one coin show a year here in Austin, so I based my question of my (admittedly) limited exposure. The only bulk bins I've seen lately were Indian Head cents, wheat cents, Buffalo nickels, Roosevelt dimes, and Mercury dimes.
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I think you need to differentiate between copper vs. zinc memorial cents. I don't think the zincs will be seen for 10+ years but I think the coppers are here now.
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I don't think the zincs will be seen for 10+ years but I think the coppers are here now.


Are you guys talking about circulated junk?

Coin dealers sell BU zincs. I look through them for nice examples.

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There were 6 times as many Memorials produced than wheats, I think they will be around a long long time.


There's a few things you need to consider before you just jump on "there's billions" bandwagon:

1) attrition
2) much greater worldwide distribution
3) general horrific quality, gems are tougher than you think
4) abused in circulation

They may be around, but well-stuck, EDS, gems are indeed rare.
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 Posted 08/03/2010  2:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carmykle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've never seen a BU in a bulk bin. I'll keep look though.
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