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Hey guys, I'm looking to purchase a nice 1859 cent for my birthday. I'm looking on ebay and came across this one. I just wanted your opinions as to whether there is anything majorly wrong with it, or if it looks pretty clean and problem free and what grade you would assign it. Thanks. http://www.collectsource.net/Photos11/11_59c9.jpg
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It's a nice looking coin that IMO has been cleaned at some point. There is some minor rim dings, that I would grade at EF-40.
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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EF details, reverse ding at 12 o'clock and minor ding on OBV by ear. Hard to tell if cleaned because there is so much glare from the flash or overhead light. To me the 12 O'clock ding on the reverse is not that distracting, it's out of the way so to speak. I'd pay VF money on this.
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Although I've bought from this seller, he tends to be....enthusiastic in his lighting and descriptions. This one's overpriced.
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Pillar of the Community
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That's a lot for the advice and grades, I appreciate it.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It's a heck of a nice present! Happy Birthday! I don't know what the price is but if it was $35 or $40, I might consider it. That booger under her nose would bother me since we all think it might be cleaned, I would try to work on that area with BadThads verdi-care and see if it can't go away some. Maybe it's the little kids on the school bus, they look like that and I give them a tissue.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Just went and found it. I am tight on buying but this one is way too much. and grades XF40 details. It's your birthday, be nicer to yourself than this.
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Pillar of the Community
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Yea, I'm going to skip on this one. I want a nice clean example, even if it's VF. I have $100 to spend and want to buy the right coin.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: I have $100 to spend and want to buy the right coin. Yeah that's right, try to get every bit of your $200.00 bucks worth out of it!  I didn't mean to talk you outta it, but I think we all concurred, it was way overpriced. Might I suggest you find a coin that absolutely screams at you. It will every time you look at it being a special coin you bought for yourself. There's nothing wrong with a belated present either. Be patient and it will show up.
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: I didn't mean to talk you outta it, but I think we all concurred, it was way overpriced. Might I suggest you find a coin that absolutely screams at you. It will every time you look at it being a special coin you bought for yourself. There's nothing wrong with a belated present either. Be patient and it will show up. Not at all. I'm glad you guys brought up the flaws, especially the cleaned aspect. I'm looking for a goods, solid specimen and this just wasn't it. And I will definitely wait until I find the right coin, that's one thing that makes this hobby much more fun.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: I don't know what the price is but if it was $35 or $40, I might consider it.  Even with the issues. Then again, I know how many dealers price 1859s, and they often expect high prices for badly cleaned coins. Last time I bought one, it took a long time to find a nice VF25--for $36. Problem-free XFs are tough to find unslabbed/top dollar.
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Pillar of the Community
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The 1859 Indian was a tough one to find a nice example for my 7070. I finally got a great deal on a three coin lot where I was able to get both the 1859 and an 1863 at the same time for a good price. I probably spent 4 months looking though, so patience may be a virtue here.
Ken
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Bedrock of the Community
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Hmmm...notice how the coloration on the coin is different inside the date, legends, and recesses around the feather tips? To my eyes, that may be evidence of cleaning, partial at least. When old dirt is removed, the underlying metal often has a different color. With evidence of cleaning and that rim ding, I wouldn't count on this coin getting a TPG grade. This coin is also a good example of how the harder CuNi planchets wore out the dies. An 1859 will be tough to buy from pics alone--good luck! 
Edited by DVCollector 10/08/2010 2:29 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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[quote]An 1859 will be tough to buy from pics alone--good luck!{/quote]
That's what I'm beginning to find out. I appreciate the replies though. I need to start finding some coin stores around my area.
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