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2010 Nat Am - Brush Marks On Rev

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Here is another group of pics that show what to me looks like brush marks or something underneath the belt in the center of the coin.

Any thoughts on what this might me? Is it worth much of anything?

2010-Nat-Am---Brush-Marks-On-Rev

2010-Nat-Am---Brush-Marks-On-Rev

2010-Nat-Am---Brush-Marks-On-Rev

2010-Nat-Am---Brush-Marks-On-Rev


Thanks for any input.

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Again, strong possibility of a die clash....
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Could be die damage or even clash removal marks. The brushing doesn't go onto the design so it was only on the top surface of the die.
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Thoughts on the value of this...?
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My guess - Feed finger damage to the die? The straight parallel lines make me think it's a possiblity. Value? No idea, definately at least what it says on the coin....

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An overlay shows no clash in that area that would affect a coin like this:
2010-Nat-Am---Brush-Marks-On-Rev
It appears to me a Feeder Finger Damage on the die.
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Coop,
Thanks for that overlay, that really shows what the clash would look like. How did you make that? I can see many instances where something like that would be very helpful to have. Any tips / suggestions on how to accomplish would be appreciated.

Thanks everyone for your input.

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The images posted on the U.S. mint library images help with images for current coinage. I use another source for other years. Then I edit them in Photo Shop to make an overlay rotating them to the position they would be in during the striking process also flipping the opposite image to simulate the contact on each of the dies fields that the contact would be made.
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Coop, As usual great optics, I have a sneaking thought, If the die was rotated, say 180 would, IYO the hair from the die THEN line up as a clashed imprint??

Those images are VERY similar to Her hair!!Also IMO, The second coin shown was struck before the first one shown, IMO....
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Mike: The lines flow through both sides of the center. Just die damage rill they polish it again. Just in the fields. The only area that would be affected by a clash in the hair area would be just the outline of the field and that device. The taller portion of the hair would be deeper into the die and this area would not touch the field.
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Thank you all for your input on this. I appreciate the learning opportunity.

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This is not a die clash. It is feeder finger scrape damage on the die. This example is extreme enough to warrant a small premium value of a few bucks, but in general stuff like this is rather common.
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Charles, by "a couple of bucks" do you mean like 2 - 3 dollars premium? I was thinking of putting one of each of the 3 different dollar errors that I posted images of out there for a price of like $15. Does that seem like a reasonable price for all 3 or is that too high / too low?
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It's all in what soeone would be willing to pay for them. I don't mean to be elusive about a value, but there is no hard line established value for such coins. if I were an error collector (which I'm not) I might be interested in paying $5 for one of them, but most error collectors don't want three of anything. Best to sell them separately.
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