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Jefferson Lamination Peel 1946 (And Odd Patterns)

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 Posted 03/18/2011  11:09 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Changeless to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
1946 Jefferson.
(1) Lamination Peel, Obverse. (shows up on Reverse as an areas of flakes in a rough pattern running parallel to, but not exactly opposite... that is to say, on the Reverse, the area is 'higher', more centered on the coin, and not pronounced 'cracks' as the Obverse)

(2) Last Three images... what caused the "beard" and the other areas pointed out?

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The chin looks like it is either the result of Die Deterioration or that portion having been struck through a slight amount of grease.
(lubricant).

The other areas pointed out are indications that the coin was struck by a worn die. That is a very common look on five-cent coins.

The lamination peels are very nice on this coin.

Thanks,
Bill
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With the worn die, those are die polish marks. As a die starts to deteriorate, they polish it to make it last as long as possible.... And could this be possibly a strike-thru that caused this lamination? Just a possibility IMO, Beautiful piece
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The marks in question are die flow lines that are showing heavy wear on the die making LDS and VLDS examples. Remember the material these dies are striking through. 75% copper, no biggie, but the 25% nickel takes quite a toll on the steel dies. After many thousands of coin make the die starts with the little flow lines that look like erosion that you would see after a rainstorm. but these are cause by wear that the making of tens of thousands of more coins. The heavy die wear flows toward the rim on the fields.

It's not lubrication as if it were, there would be nothing shapped in that area. It would remain un-formed. But we see the opposite happening.

The lamination is an evtirely separate issue than the senior dies. That is a planchet issue. The stock had a poor mixture in it and it is starting to peel away from the rest of the material. This just didn't start now. This looked that way the day it was struck.

This type of die wear/deteriation has nothing to do with polishings. this is just very late die state. the polishing of the die has nothing to do with the lamination as this coin was struck by worn dies and had a lamimation of the stock material the blanks were cut from.
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Great pictures
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Under the jaw just looks like he forgot to shave.
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