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What Do You Consider A "Complete" Set

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I was just curious what anybody's definition of a "complete" set is?

When I first started collecting, I was in the Whitman blue folders. As my collection grew, I moved to putting all of my coins into 2x2's. I would talk to dealers at shows, and at shops, and they would say that a certain set wasn't complete because I was missing the error coin that cost 6 figures.

I moved on to the Dansco albums, not only for the reason that I like the look of them, but because it gave me a universal set. I could then say that I have the complete set based on the Dansco album for a certain set. This has come back to bite me, however, as in the 1873 large 3 over small 3 Shield nickel.

I firmly believe that you can say that your set is complete, whenever you want, because it is YOUR set, and if you don't want to spend for that 6 figure coin you don't have to. (And yes, I realize that by going to the Dansco because of peer pressure is totally hypocritical)

Just curious what your mindset was on this.

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I think that you're correct => "you can say that your set is complete, whenever you want, because it is YOUR set" ... however, I guess one man's complete is another man's bare-bones, right? (it depends upon the amount of cash you have to spend on your hobby, combined with the degree of OCD you have in your head) ... it drives some people insane staring at that empty coin-slot, whereas a collector that has no means of ever collecting the 6 figure coin may be able to smile and think => "I did it, It's now complete!"
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 Posted 07/27/2011  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add spaceace to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree for the most part. I usually consider a set complete when I have all of the regularly issued coins from all mints (plus proofs if you collect those also). Any error coin I look at as a bonus. Varieties like small dates, wide rim/narrow rim, Buffalo nickel mound/flat ground etc, could go either way and would be up to each collectior. I think most people include the varieties in complete sets unless they are really rare and pricey. Overall is is whatever makes you happy and feel complete.
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A full set is every date and mintmark of that denomination that was intended for circulation.

(Well, in my opinion it is!)
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... I have the complete set based on the Dansco album for a certain set... I firmly believe that you can say that your set is complete, whenever you want, because it is YOUR set,
This.

I use Dansco albums, so my set is complete when the album is. This is what makes me happy. It might not make anyone else happy.

One thing I must mention is that the Dansco Lincoln Cent album has a hole for the 1922-D "plain" cent. This really, really, really bothers me.
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One thing I must mention is that the Dansco Lincoln Cent album has a hole for the 1922-D "plain" cent. This really, really, really bothers me.

This subject came up not to long ago and I've got it worse using Whitman Classic Albums for Lincoln Cents. Slots for 22 no D, 55 Double Die, 72 Double Die, 95 Double Die. Not sure about other company's Albums but also the large and small 60's, 70S's, all the 82's and I made my own page for all 20 of the 2009's. They do the same with almost all coins were they put in a slot for coins 99% of the world just can't get them.
Hopefully Whitman will never make a Lincoln Cent Album based on Daughtrey's book. Then an Album would be about 100 pages thick.
For me I try to fill all slots in all Albums to make it appear complete. BUT in some instances I fake it. For example for a 1894S Dime I just put in a photo of one glued to cardboard.
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I use Dansco albums, so my set is complete when the album is. This is what makes me happy. It might not make anyone else happy.


I agree with this, although it means that the only set I've managed to complete (so far) is my Eisenhower dollar set.

There are a few coins that I haven't yet purchased, although they are definitely available. I think the prices for them just are putting me off, even though they aren't that high. Things like the 1970-S Small Date cent and the 1979-S and 1981-S Type 2 SBA Dollars. None of which are horribly expensive but I still cringe at the thought of purchasing these.
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I consider a complete set a set with all years and mintmarks, maybe with the essai but this does not apply to US coins.
Varieties are nicebut not necessary.
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I agree with this, although it means that the only set I've managed to complete (so far) is my Eisenhower dollar set.
I see no problem with that! The Eisenhower dollar Dansco album happens to be the first one that I completed.
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I don't collect all the varieties, so my Dansco albums are missing a few coins, however I consider them complete. For Example: I will keep my eye open, but I will probably never get a 1942 "2 over 1" Mercury dime.
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I decided long ago to not collect copper clad coinage. This has created a date gap in many of my "sets". I consider my Roosevelt dime, Washington quarter, and Kennedy half "silver" sets complete. My ASE set is incomplete as I have all the BU and proof examples except for the 1995 w. I don't consider the reverse of a prior year or errors a part of my sets.
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 Posted 07/27/2011  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yass to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Where to start?
My primary focus is the Australian $1 minted by the Royal Australian Mint. I do not collect the Perth Mint offerings, primarily because they are often a different size and are not circulating coinage. I collect all RAM circulating, non-circulating legal tender mintmarked, counterstamped, privymarked, sterling silver and proof $1 coins. Throw in a circulating mule and a proof mule and there you have my 'complete' set of Australia $1.

I also have an extensive collection of $1 error coins. I can throw together numerous 'repeatable' errors. Most have exactly the same error, but may differ in die decay. On some you can nearly see the progression of the die's decline. I don't consider these as varieties which need to be added to my 'primary' collection. I'll give you an example: I don't consider the USA 1955 double die 1 cent as a 'variety. It is an error. Make no mistake, I would love one, but IMHO, it is not necessary for completeness.

Having said that, I agree that each collector will have a different opinion as to what 'complete' means. Each to their own.
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 Posted 07/28/2011  10:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I don't collect all the varieties, so my Dansco albums are missing a few coins, however I consider them complete. For Example: I will keep my eye open, but I will probably never get a 1942 "2 over 1" Mercury dime.
My Indian Head cents, Buffalo nickels, and Mercury dimes are all in a custom album using blank pages. Because of this, I do not have to collect the varieties, just the normal date-mint that I want.
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I think there are several levels of "completness". Let us say one wants to collect coins specified as e.g. "Australian 20 cent" or "Polish 2zl".

The first level is the "designs" level. The collection is complete if it has all the designs in, at least one specimen for each design.

The second level is "years". Each design should be present one specimen for every year the coin was minted.

The third level: "metal & dice" - as above including proof/unc versions and versions stuck on different blanks e.g. Cu/Ni, silver, gold.

The fourth level: "varieties" - include die varieties.

The final level: "errors" - ultimately hard to complete as some of the major errors are unique (as for example the coin in my avatar is).
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I once saw an a guy exhibit his complete Lincoln Cent set. Every coin was high MS and red. Absolutely beautiful set. In the space for the 1922 no D, he had a little note card that read something like "The 1922 No D is an error coin; a coin that's a mistake. As you can see, this set has no mistakes." I literally laughed out loud when I read it. It always stuck in my mind and made me feel better about not filling that spot or the 55 DD spot in my album.
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I think there are several levels of "completness"...
An interesting point of view, Murazor.


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"The 1922 No D is an error coin; a coin that's a mistake. As you can see, this set has no mistakes."
I love it! My plan is to place a Weak-D or a very worn 1922-D in that hole. I refuse to spend more for this coin that I will for my 1914-D.
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