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So my question is, is it ok to dip (not scrub) my wheat pennys in vinegar and salt to clean off all the dirt from circulation?
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Valued Member
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That would depend on the condition of the coin.Meaning if they are MS condition the vinegar will remove the luster.Circulated wheaties will have an unnatural orange color.
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Valued Member
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Don't know where you got the recommendation for those ingredients from, but whoever it was, they are out to lunch. Vinegar is acidic and salt is extremely corrosive. Maybe someone else more experienced than I am will chime in but I would personally NEVER do that. It is my understanding that soaking in olive oil for a period of time and GENTLE q-tipping the affected area is probably ok but beyond that it's better left alone. It is very easy to degrade a coin using improper techniques or substances.
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Pillar of the Community
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In my limited experience of trial and lots of error with circulation pennies, vinegar has the same effect as most metal cleaners, and should generally be avoided as any value will be ruined... just my humble opinion...
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Cleaning any coins is the kiss of death to a coin. I personally will never buy a cleaned coin. 
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Pillar of the Community
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some people use vinegar on nickels, but I think it would ruin cents. like mentioned, it would take away luster and make it have an unnatural color. try it on a regular copper cent you don't care about just so you can see what happens. you won't want to do it again after you see the results.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Vinegars are all slightly different. All contain about 4% Acid. Salt is NaCl and the Cl is also corrosive to Copper. Rubbing a coin with anything is as good as saying goodby to that coin. Might as well use a wire wheel on a bench grinder. If you want, try using a auto car cleaner/polisher. They will take off all the dirt and make the coin look like a proof. And also, make it worth about what is says on the coin for face value.
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I use Olive Oil and a Q-Tip very lightly to remove dirt. I also use a sharpened tooth pick to remove the crud,Very lightly. A little at a time. Then I rinse with water and dip into distilled water and pat dry as much as I can then air dry the rest of the time. I only do this on average circulated cents, nothing worth much. It is a long slow process, be careful not to rub too hard.
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I agree that you should not use anything acidic on a coin or rub a coin, even with a microfiber towel. Do not use the vinegar and salt, like the others have said. Do not use e-Z-est coin cleaner on copper. It will turn your copper pink. Other so called "coin cleaners and jewelry cleaners" will damage your coin from what I have seen. It is best to leave the coin as is. I don't even like to handle copper coins at all. If I do have to handle them. I wear latex gloves with white cotton gloves over them. A fingerprint on a copper coin can often become permanently etched on the coin. So handle them as little as possible and only by the edge with a gloved hand. I know this sounds overboard, but you want to protect your collection as much as possible. I know that everyone says not to clean a coin. Would using an ultrasonic cleaner be an acceptable method that would not cause damage? Also, I saw this article that mostly deals with silver coins with PVC tarnish. http://earlyus.com/art005-pvc.pdf is that method still an acceptable method for silver coins? and would it work for copper? or would it leave an unnatural color like e-z-est does to copper? I know there are so called "curating" method and "conservation" method services that are offered. How do these guys do their work on coins with out leaving hairlines or other signs of "cleaning"? They claim the work is undetectable by the major grading houses?
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Bedrock of the Community
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1) Do not clean coins. 2) 99% of the methods described on the internet will destroy your coins, i.e. vinegar and salt.
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Quote: I use Olive Oil and a Q-Tip very lightly to remove dirt. I also use a sharpened tooth pick to remove the crud,Very lightly. A little at a time. Then I rinse with water and dip into distilled water and pat dry as much as I can then air dry the rest of the time. I only do this on average circulated cents, nothing worth much. It is a long slow process, be careful not to rub too hard.
Olive oil (all oils) are insoluble in water. A water rinse will not remove the surface oil. To properly remove oil you must use xylene.... or another non-polar, organic solvent. Olive oil contains organic acids and many other impurities. If left on the surface, even in trace amounts, verdigris will eventually form. Copper and acid do not play well together and I don't ever recommend using acidic solutions on copper.
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I remember my coin dealer told me that once an older man walked in his shop one day with twenty Morgans that were destroyed. He said the old man said they were his dad's coins and needed some "tender loving care". When asked what he used to clean them with, he said steel wool and Brasso :o One was a CC!
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: I agree that you should not use anything acidic on a coin or rub a coin, even with a microfiber towel. Do not use the vinegar and salt, like the others have said. Do not use e-Z-est coin cleaner on copper. It will turn your copper pink. Other so called "coin cleaners and jewelry cleaners" will damage your coin from what I have seen. It is best to leave the coin as is.
I don't even like to handle copper coins at all. If I do have to handle them. I wear latex gloves with white cotton gloves over them. A fingerprint on a copper coin can often become permanently etched on the coin. So handle them as little as possible and only by the edge with a gloved hand. I know this sounds overboard, but you want to protect your collection as much as possible. Right, excellent advice!  Quote: I know that everyone says not to clean a coin. Would using an ultrasonic cleaner be an acceptable method that would not cause damage? Not generally acceptable. However, sonication can be very useful on highly encrusted coins where the potential for damage is not as important as helping a heavily corroded coin. Richard (CC forum) has demonstrated the proper use of a sonicator in a thread here. He proved it can be very useful! In general, for most people, I do not recommend sonication as it can damage the surfaces. Quote:Also, I saw this article that mostly deals with silver coins with PVC tarnish. http://earlyus.com/art005-pvc.pdf is that method still an acceptable method for silver coins? and would it work for copper? or would it leave an unnatural color like e-z-est does to copper? Blue Ribbon is no longer made or sold. Using acetone is by far the best way to remove PVC residue from coins and is the defactor standard today. The conservation process using acetone in itself does ZERO damage and will not change the color. However, the hydrochloric acid in the PVC residue WILL damage the surfaces, just as shown in the link. Quote: I know there are so called "curating" method and "conservation" method services that are offered. How do these guys do their work on coins with out leaving hairlines or other signs of "cleaning"? They claim the work is undetectable by the major grading houses? I think you're referring to NCS. Their methods are proprietary; however, experienced conservationists can theorize. For example, I'm positive they use a lot of in-house prepared acid/thiourea dips for conserving silver coins. A lot of their work comes out pretty much undetectable....they definately do not leave hairlines! The are the best in business and there's a reason they call themselves a conservation service and not a cleaning service. There are MANY NCS conserved coins in NGC and PCGS holders today. If you didn't know, NCS and NGC are one in the same.
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Edited by BadThad 08/07/2011 12:38 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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I forgot to mention to the OP....
The best way to "clean" common cents is to just hold them under hot running water and rub them with your fingers. It works great for removing general grime and it's pretty safe on the surfaces.
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