Any News On 25th Anniversary ASE Set?

Let's try this question on for size.

Early die state coins will be delivered to people with late orders? Entirely possible. Mint stacks sets built first on the bottom of the pallet....and those will be the sets sent out last.

Thoughts?

A true collector will know simply by examining the coin for an EDS, or not.........The terms Early Die State and Late Die State are for a reason and knowing the difference is helpful.

Well, I guess I'm a bit blown away by the HSN Anacs listings...not so much the price(1,500 for a 60 set doesn't seem too bad, actually), it's the VOLUME of orders they grabbed(HOW did they do THAT?), and, the speed of slabbing...Anacs made a bundle off this order, which, I don't mind, but there seems to be something haywire with a large company getting 1 "special" label, and, John Q. Public getting another...this must have been worked out weeks in advance...Lobbying at it's finest...and, there is something unsavory about think of this as "Speed Grading"....I have read all it takes is 6 seconds for a professional grader to do his thing, and, poof---DONE, and, I somewhat believe that(aren't coins supposed to be turned over to a 2nd person, THEN a third, for final agreement on grade?)---OK...18 seconds per coin for grading, plus delivery time to the person sitting next to them...make it 2 minutes per coin...I dunno....I'm a bit at a loss how I feel about this...part of me doesn't care, knowing the Coin World is run by big people with big bucks, and, the other part of me feels dissapointed by the whole thing....are we getting too greedy with our coins? Have we lost track of real collecting, and what is right, and what is wrong? Has First Strike and Early release by definition now become so "Collectible", that we have lost our minds, KNOWING the whole program is meaningless, and bent on sheer profit only?
Sorry to mumble a bunch of heavy stuff, but, this seems a bit out of control here....anyone chime in, feel free.
(I don't like to rag on things, without offering SOLUTIONS....my Solution to most of this is implementing a TRUE Frirst Strike system, where the coins ARE numerically tracked, and, the designation would hold REAL weight...shame on the TPG's for prostituting themselves in this regard, and, not lobbying the Mint to change it's practices...it would NOT be a hard thing to do, keeping track of first in, last out coinage production!-----another solution--CCF members could have their OWN labels on slabs.special ones just for US..wouldn't THAT be cool!)

Now that would be a great key coin for the 30th anniversary ASE Set!

@ilikeikes

There were some of us when the TPGs first came into existence who saw them as nothing more than a way for someone to profit from the coin collecting hobby. We speculated future scenarios similar to what we now see happening in front of us.

It used to be people valued each coin by its own rarity. It was more fun to collect when each year and mintmark had differing values instead of what now seems to be, overall, everything but keys in a set are valued pretty much the same.

It was more exciting to find a 1941 S nickel than a 1941 P since the mintage was lower. Now you can grab an entire set minus keys for next to nothing on ebay b/c the playing field for all other dates has been leveled.

Yes, slabbed coins have, in theory, made it possible to "know" you have a perfect coin. However, the ONLY slabbed coin I ever bought is an MS70 ASE. Under 10X magnification, you can see gouges in some of the lettering. Needless to say my now-older-self has my ears ringing with words my once-younger-self used to say.

I always thought the TPGs sold the concept of "certification" as a way to open a new market - for their own, future exploitation. Although some good has come from it, I fear the bad has outweighed the good and their true intent is becoming more and more evident.

I am not down on anyone who collects slabbed coins. Again, legitimately slabbed coins (actually going through the process claimed and done with an eye to making dead sure of the grade) give a collector great confidence. But I will never again buy a slabbed coin and just accept it is what the label says. I will have my magnifying glass out and inspect the coin.

BTW - jokingly I used to say that one day someone would come up with a way create a market for certifying the certified, slabbed coins. When getting back into the hobby a few years ago, guess how non-surprised I was to discover this is exactly what has happened! Now we see these cute little holographic stickers on our slabbed coins and another 10.00 added to the price... hmmm.

Anyone want to predict the next step? Its probably not too hard to do!

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I saw earlier today that HSN was selling 200 sets of MS70/PF70 coins for $2999. And they were selling fast. Probably gone already. And the poor suckers that bought them probably think that they got a great deal. That is way more than I thought they would sell them for. This whole grading thing of getting a 70 grade instead of 69 doubles the price is ridiculous. Who can really tell the difference anyway. I can't.

I am still waiting for my 1 set to be shipped. My order was accepted at 4:45 so I am probably going to be one of the last ones to get it from the mint. At least I did not get the cancel email. I am happy about that. Still anxious though.

For a short while I thought maybe I should not open the box and send it in for grading. Heck with that! I am going to enjoy my set in the OGP and it will stay that way. I don't intend to ever sell it anyway. I am so turned off with grading modern coins anymore.

By hearing about "sealed sets", I thought that there would be some form of security tape around the box. Nope. Just regular old clear packing tape. Fortunately the tape was not broken, and it's off to it's new owner in New England.

I don't understand that statement. Are you saying that that the grading companies are making up sets of 70's with regular issue coins? Makes zero sense to me...especially since the issue seems to be the S burnished coin which doesn't exist "out of set"..and why would they care anyway.

Dealers (or everyday sellers) will make a 70 set out of what they have. It doesn't imply that they sent in one set and they all came back with a 70 grade. Send in 20 sets and you will be able to make up a few 70 sets....send them to ANACS and you will probably get 10-15 back