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1833 Coronet Large Cent (W/ Rotated Die) Grade Request

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 Posted 09/12/2011  10:12 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mdpmedia to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi,

This large cent appears to have a rotated die.

The reverse shot was taken by flipping the coin over along the same y axis so as to simulate the exact degree of rotation.

I would like to know the grade and if this rotation is significant enough to add additional collector value to this coin.

Approximately what % increase over the normal non rotated coin price should one expect?

Thank you,
mdpmedia

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 Posted 09/12/2011  10:59 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
VG Details/corroded
Not enough rotation to add any significant value. It was more common on the Coronet LC's.
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^^ agreed.
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 Posted 09/13/2011  12:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add delaner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like VG details, net G-. Still a neat coin, I hope you enjoy it!
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Not enough rotation to add value to it. those minor rotations on large cents are common, only when they are 90 degrees or more are the collectible. many collectors view those minor rotations as distractions, and thus many die hard large cent collectors would take a pass on it.
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I think I have the same error as you have. I was wondering if you found any info on the value of a rotated die with this type of coin? I also put these shots of my 1828 rotated reverse next to my 1826 regular reverse.

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woobie - new coins should get new posts, otherwise it gets very confusing about who is talking about which coin. So is yours a 180 degree rotation on an 1828? very cool.
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Hello. The die rotation is common and adds no value in this instance. These coins are in the good details area. The significance of the "details" designation is that it means the coin has detracting/negative issues other than natural wear and toning. The first coin is heavily corroded and the second is scratched. Both would receive a "details" grade. Some things that might cause a coin to be labeled as "details" are:

Cleaning
Burnished
Whizzed
Corroded
Environmental damage
Scratches
Graffiti

Among others, these issues would cause a coin to be valued lower than an otherwise problem free coin. Personally, I don't buy coins with a details designation, but many people do. I hope this helps.
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