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 Posted 10/19/2007  10:32 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add chrsb to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I thought I would start a thread talking about what we are finding in our sorting. For those who do not know about "The Cent Project" take a look here- http://www.thecentproject.com/ they are still taking volunteers!

I am four and a half hours into sorting and have got the first step complete, sorting by last digit. I have found around 75-100 Canadians, earliest one is 1944. Five wheats, earliest 1939. I also have one Dutch coin that I do not know it is and 2 dimes.


When I am done sorting I want to look for some varieties, what ones are you going to look for? I am planning on looking for-
1998-2000 for wide AM http://koinpro.tripod.com/Articles/...rieties.htm)
1972 DDO's- http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...pe=do&page=0
1995 DDO's- http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...pe=do&page=0
1983 DDR's- http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...pe=dr&page=0
1984 DDO's- http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...pe=do&page=0
1997 DDO- http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...pe=do&page=0
1969-S DDO- http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...pe=do&page=0
Transitional's- http://varietyvista.com/lincoln_cen..._changes.htm

So what have you found, and what are you looking for! Also how is the sort going, any tips of tricks would probably help out some others too!

My only tip is don't dump them on the table, I like to put the rolls in my hand, it seems to go faster!
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10/20/2007 08:58 am
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 Posted 10/19/2007  11:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cpfull to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I finished my first 50$ this week, I found only 6 canadians, 1 a 44, and a few 40s and 50 wheats, all at best G4.
I kept out he 72p,and 95p to look for doubling, just in case, and all the 82's to see if I can upgrade the ones I have, even though I really don't know why I have any of them. I did quick looks at the AM in the 92d and the 99, and of course nothing came of it. I plan to do another 50$ when I can get to my old hometown bank for the cents, but it won't be until early Nov, maybe it that bunch I will get a few foreign coins and some indians.
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 Posted 10/20/2007  12:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add docsfishn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm a little over half way done with my $50 sorting by last number and so far I have found 10 wheat cents, 7 Canadian cents and 1 1971s. I do have several that I can't read the dates but look like they are zinc. I've already signed up for another $50 worth.
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 Posted 10/20/2007  01:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errorcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My daughter and I did the first 2500 by last number, one Canadian, 8 wheat's including a 1943 steal. 2 Gum cents. Some real nice 67 68 bu red cents showed up. She is proud that she found the earliest date so far 1941.

2500 more to go, then more sorting.


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 Posted 10/20/2007  03:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In the search so far I am receiving reports of the following as earliest finds...

An 1860s store card coin, 19mm in diameter. Appears to be a sort of Civil War Token.

The following cents:

1913
1923
1925S
1938

A large number of wheat cents have been popping up, averaging ten or so per sort. Very odd anomaly in the data so far - the most common wheat found so far is 1944P (plain).

No surprise, Northerners are finding Canadian cents: 50-75 per person in the northern tier. Myself, usually 1-3 per sort. I live in the center of the US.

No blatant oddities in the numbers so far. As expected, no 1970S small dates. Two 1960P small dates have been found, one by this author. For the most part, those East are finding much greater numbers of Philly cents, and those West are finding far more Denver cents.

So far I have the tally total for roughly 35,000 coins. Still looking for well over a million before all is said and done.

Still accepting volunteers!
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 Posted 10/20/2007  03:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Im at 3000 cents sorted and listed and starting on my 4th 1000 coins .

so far only three wheaties have come up all 56-D's and 2 canadian cents .

The girls at my bank have offered their personal jars of coins to me for the effort ,, as well as keeping all the rolls I return seperate from those that come in so I don't duplicate my efforts .

Pretty cool of them I thought !

Metalman



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In an effort to help this research I will purchase $50 in Cents when I get home and go through them. I However know very little about Lincolns so I will probably miss a lot.
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 Posted 10/20/2007  3:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crash070602 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I volenteered for this project but I havnt started sorting, I will soon though. however I coulnt keep my hands off that box so I tore into it looking for wheats and varieties. I found 5 wheats, oldest 1941 I think. also found 1 1991 Panama cent and one 01 Bermuda Cent. Anyone else finding these cents in their searches?
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 Posted 10/20/2007  4:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
By way pointers for sorting this is my method .



These are fishing tackle lure boxes for this sort Iam using three of them ,, I break all the rolls into a container (cool whip plastic container) from the container I sort by year one year per pocket (this box shown is 1990 through 2007)I have the three boxes which provides enough room for 60 through 2007 plus the varieties dates that need to be totaled by large date small date ) I do not sort by MM yet ,,once all the coins are sorted by date I remove them one year at a time and sort by MM count each and enter the values into a simple spread sheet from Microsoft works adding each sort to the total .

I only handle each coin twice its fast and easy ,, and the boxes make a perfect storage area if each sort is not completed at a sitting . I also store all my circulated wheats by year in these boxes all the time . as well as State Quarters, nickels, and dimes.

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 Posted 10/20/2007  4:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Topher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm completely fascinated by this entire project and can't wait for the results. If I was still living in the US, I'd be all over this!

Looking forward to the final results, Chuck!
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 Posted 10/20/2007  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Metalman, et. al...

I understand everyone is going to employ their personal choice in sorting coins. My personla choice is to use the method I posted on the cent project website, where ALL coins are sorted into ten containers by last digit without doing any other sorting...THEN take each container and sort them by date, then separate the mintmarks. Here's why:

1. It's faster, and you touch each coin fewer times.
2. It groups ALL the coins of the same date together, no matter how large the sort. This allows you to spot oddities FAR more easily...if you have a group of coins and you're looking through them unsorted, you'd see a 1990, then a 1982, then a 1973, then a 2004, etc...your eyes never get adjusted to a single design (all of these years used different designs). If you're looking through 195 coins that are all 1988, you're FAR more likely to spot the ONE that's a transitional reverse variety. Just makes sense.
3. Sorting like this uses far fewer containers. If you're sorting into 10 containers, it will go FAR faster than sorting into 50 containers. Much smaller margin for error.
4. Sorting into fewer containers allows you to put them away more easily for a later date. Back when I sorted into decades first, I used 5 containers for the decades, then 10 containers for the years. That's 15 containers. With them sorted by last digit first, I use only the ten containers. Sorting into the final pile of four or five decades is easy and fast and can be done with a gallon tub of coins in a half hour or less...and yes, I have had full gallon containers of cents sorted by last digit...where all I had to do was separate the 1965, 1975, 1985, 1995, and 2005 cents. This is a cinch compared to taking all the coins from the 1970s and sorting each date.

There's definitely a method to my madness, and believe me, it really works better and faster, and is the most efficient way to sort cents I have ever seen.
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 Posted 10/20/2007  10:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was thinking the only varieties that were sorting independantly for are the 7- 1982 varieties, the Large and small date 1960,,the large and small date 1970-S and the large and small 1974 cents ?

and as a larger view a census of which dates are prolific and which may have been striken highly by attrition.

are we supposed to be sorting right now for transitional reverses and design changes ?

Chuck while I see your point about your sorting method ,, I have been using mine for several years and it is much quicker for me to continue with what I'm used to .

I handle the coins only twice and search for the varieties while sorting for mint mark,, the coins are all in one year piles so its not like I'm changing constantly from one date to another in my search .
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 Posted 10/20/2007  10:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Metalman,

The only thing we are counting is what is in the spreadsheet found here-
http://www.thecentproject.com/news.php
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 Posted 10/20/2007  10:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arthrene to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ha ha. Metalman, I guess great minds think alike. This is my sorting method.



The only difference is that mine are bead boxes that I picked up at a craft store. I use two boxes instead of three. It takes me from 1980 to 2007. The box pictured is 85-89, 95-99, and 05-07 (lots of the 07s so the last three pockets are full of them). The other box has the beginning of these decades.

I have several small jars which the '60s and '70s coins go into. For the cent project I've placed foreign coins (all Canadian right now) into the extra pockets on the left side of the container. The other container has a similar pocket for '50s coins and coins which I cannot read the dates on.

Also like Metalman, I look for varieties once everything is sorted. Or if I notice something interesting while sorting those coins will go into a separate pile.
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 Posted 10/20/2007  11:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Chrsb

That is what Iam counting ,,I was just wondering because chuck brought up the transitional reverses and design changes in his post .

My spread sheet looks essentially like the one on the PDF ,,and I can't use the excel so I will continue with mine as it is .

Arthrene Its good to see another that has found the compartmental boxes ,,I really like mine !

both for this type of search and also for stroage as I mentioned earlier.

Metalman
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 Posted 10/20/2007  11:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arthrene to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
coppercoins,
If we have volunteered to do more than two boxes, would you like us to submit more than one excel? Or just to group them together?
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