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2019 P Washington Quarter Rockwell Hardness Test?

 
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 Posted 04/13/2019  3:58 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add levelsofmadnes to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I found this last night and I am not sure if this was done by a Rockwell Hardness Test. But if it is, I would think they would do more than one test per coin. I don't know.



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 Posted 04/13/2019  4:01 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Probably a Struck Through error. I very highly doubt that it's the Rockwell Hardness test mark.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
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1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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 Posted 04/13/2019  4:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add levelsofmadnes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the reply Errers and Varietys.
Will drop it in the outbound bucket.
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 Posted 04/13/2019  4:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If this coin is struck through (and I'm not convinced that it is, but E&V knows his stuff), then it probably is worth saving in a 2x2.
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 Posted 04/13/2019  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halo1st to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not saying it is or isn't, but its seems pretty darn close in appearance, shape and size to a (pre-strike) blank or planchet test subject. Thanks, Doug.

http://www.error-ref.com/rockwell-t...in-planchet/
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 Posted 04/13/2019  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does it bulge out to the right of the flag? It looks like it might?
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 Posted 04/13/2019  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add levelsofmadnes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coop,
You got Lasix surgery or something? It is there.
I can easily see the outward bump by moving the coin back and forth at an angle to the light. I hope the USB scope takes is able to capture that slight protrusion.



Next three pics are 90 degrees counter... for some reason I see it better that way.
On the right side of the flag their is a white blemish. The bump is just to the right of the blemish( if the pic was oriented correctly).


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 Posted 04/13/2019  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halo1st to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wondering if it correlates in any way with the larger obverse die deterioration or protrusions above and through liberty, showing nothing opposite? Thanks, Doug.
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 Posted 04/13/2019  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add levelsofmadnes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Trying to think this out.. would a strike through show as a bump on the opposite side?

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 Posted 04/13/2019  10:09 pm  Show Profile   Check paralyse's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This coin immediately intrigued me as the level of die deterioration shown is extremely unusual for such a new coin. In addition to the rough areas on the reverse, the obverse strike is particularly bizarre. I would lean towards a defective planchet as-struck and it being a Rockwell dimple, but professional authentication is warranted. A very interesting coin, and thank you for sharing it.
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Richard S. Cooper
Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
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 Posted 04/13/2019  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halo1st to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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would a strike through show as a bump on the opposite side?


Short answer is no, but that is pending the die(s) condition. I see no raised ridge surrounding the anomaly. That is what catches my eye. Obverse die deterioration showing some. Could it not also be present on reverse as well? Thanks, Doug.
Second opinions are always recommended. Rookies thoughts!
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 Posted 04/13/2019  10:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If the coin was altered after the strike, then it would push out on the opposite side:
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Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

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 Posted 04/13/2019  10:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halo1st to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
See coops 1914D example. The obverse screams of after strike indentions. Raised ridge around both blunt intrusions. The sharp protrusion on the reverse confirms it as well. Maybe you can see it in hand, but I'm not seeing that here on my end yet. Thanks, Doug.
Second opinions are always recommended. Rookies thoughts!
Two sides to every coin. The edge makes three.
Side Note: Sometimes I feel like a nut, sometimes I don't.
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 Posted 04/13/2019  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add levelsofmadnes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yup. I figured I would have a hard time capturing the slight bulge. Best analogy would be like a small dent on a car door. Cant really see it head on but if you go to the back or front of the car and move your head from side to side you can see the small dent. Yes, in hand it is there.
I just need to work on my picture capturing skills.
Thanks everyone . now to see if there is a video on coin Rockwell hardness test. Need to see exactly how it is performed.
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I just posted a 1956 Wheat cent with the same marks on it but mine has two marks looking the same as your mark! ODD A 1956 and a 2019 WOULD HAVE THE ((( SAME ))) MARKS !!
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