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1795 Flowing Hair Dollar "Love Token"

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 Posted 09/22/2020  09:35 am Show Profile   Check Yokozuna's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add Yokozuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I was searching the Newman Numismatic Portal https://nnp.wustl.edu/ when I found this and wanted to share the image. While it hurts to see a coin like this damaged, I do find the engraving beautiful!

I'd love to know the value of the coin and the condition of the reverse in the year it was modified!

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 Posted 09/22/2020  10:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Based on the probable time period it was made, that was a quite a significant creation.
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Picture it as if there were no description.
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 Posted 09/22/2020  10:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Loruca to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A break action shotgun like that does not date anywhere near the 1700's, so it likely is a much later creation. Wikipedia says the first revolver with that sort of action was made patented in 1858!
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 Posted 09/22/2020  10:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fascinating piece of artwork.

It would be interesting to know when it was created and what the coin actually looked like BEFORE the alteration.

For all we know the coin could have originally had some crude initials carved on the reverse. Some enterprising individual then bought it, had the reverse planned down, and then had what we see now engraved on it.

As always, it's worth what somebody is willing to pay for it.

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 Posted 09/22/2020  11:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The heyday of love tokens was about 1870-1910. Dollars are rather uncommon; to see this on a 1795 specimen must surely be very rare if not unique. Engraved common date Morgans sell for $100 or so. The age of the host coin plus the quality of the work would make this quite a bit more.
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 Posted 09/22/2020  11:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Quite remarkable, thanks for sharing.
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 Posted 09/22/2020  1:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sergiomomesso to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
this love token is absolutely crazy, look at that quality hand engraving... wow, PLUS, got the obverse of the 1795 dollar, crazy combination!

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 Posted 09/22/2020  2:00 pm  Show Profile   Check BigSilver's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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A break action shotgun like that does not date anywhere near the 1700's, so it likely is a much later creation

Very good point.
A 1795 dollar in the mid-late 1800's should have been given more respect. It is probable that the reverse was damaged enough to warrant a total restart.
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 Posted 09/22/2020  3:21 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Man that's gorgeous !
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 Posted 09/22/2020  3:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"I'd love to know the value of the coin and the condition of the reverse in the year it was modified!" - I found some sales of 1795 dollars in the 1871 American Journal of Numismatics. $4.50, "fillet head, fine" 17.00, "fine" 19.00, some others in the 2.00-3.75 range. Can't tell what prices were for flowing hair versus draped bust though.
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 Posted 09/22/2020  9:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The "fillet head" was a common name for the draped bust design. The ribbon holding back her hair was called a fillet.

At least it was a common variety, B-5.
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 Posted 09/23/2020  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At current prices I'll guess $3000. But the quality of the engraving might push that higher, as folk art. Probably post Civil War, typical of trophy finish from that period.

No one could guess what the reverse looked like. It wasn't as highly valued 100 years ago, so it could have been normal. The surviving population is pretty high.
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 Posted 09/25/2020  08:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great artistic work but now only a damaged coin.
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 Posted 09/25/2020  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scopru to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Great artistic work but now only a damaged coin.


My thoughts as well.

First double barrel shotgun was mid-1870's I believe. However, I can not easily tell if that is what the type of shotgun is. It is a nice engraving though.
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 Posted 09/25/2020  11:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bump111 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The weapon on this token appears to be a percussion breech-loading shotgun. Breech-loaders have been around since the early 19th century and percussion weapons came along prior to the Civil War. It is hard to date this item but likely created during the love token heyday of the mid- to late-eighteenth century?

I personally think this is a wonderful example of the artistry that was applied to these items. Someone with initials CK would have a great treasure if they had this token and I prefer it to the native coin that was likely worn when the token was created. As the old saying goes, "To Each Their Own."
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