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1991 Jefferson Nickel With Questionable P MM And Other "Issues"

 
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 Posted 11/26/2021  02:05 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Frankie20 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello everyone. Hope all who celebrate TG had a nice one.
I would appreciate some direction on this one. I like to think that I am learning a thing or two from all of you, but still have trouble with doubling. I apologize right off for the pics, realizing that it hindrance. I recognize that this nickel is the result of a lot of what I think is Die Deterioration? But, I think there might be an area or two that may have legit doubling. This is where I get confused...still. Also, it may not be so easy to see in these pics but the P mm looks like it is on top of something else.
Opinions appreciated. Thank you.&









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 Posted 11/26/2021  07:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@frank, I do see striations in the field near indicative of a tired die. I am struggling though with your pic of the mintmark. Any chance of a more in-focus pic?
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 Posted 11/26/2021  07:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree with the Die Deterioration state of the coin. At first glance, the mint mark appears normal, but close-in and sharp photos might clarify if anything is going on. Thanks.
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 Posted 11/26/2021  12:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In regards to the mint mark,it isn't a RPM or a OMM. Does that help any?
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 Posted 11/26/2021  12:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looking for random anomalies on coins and hoping they match up to something collectable will take you a lot more time, wasted effort, and disappointment repeatedly finding out you have nothing but post mint damage.

Spend some initial time at places like error-ref.com, doubleddie.com, varietyvista.com, conecaonline.org, coppercoins.com etc. to find what actual and collectable coin errors look like.

A good way to start is, for instance, separate a bunch of pennies by date. Go to varietyvista.com and, date by date, use the reference there to see what errors are known for that specific coin/mint mark. Look for those specific errors/varieties using the pictures provided. After doing this for awhile you will KNOW what an actual error looks like and not have to waste time on face value and damaged coins.&
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 Posted 11/26/2021  12:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bumpkin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As Spence pointed out, the striations (also known as flow lines) which are the thousands of tiny linear lines flowing in the direction towards the rim, are a dead giveaway that the die producing a coin is simply slap wore out. As a result, a worn out die will produce many things on a coin, predominately on Nickels it seems, that can lead you to see things that are sometimes assumed as errors. I don't see any errors on your coin but better pics are always a good idea. Practice on your coin pics and you will no doubt get better and clearer photos before you know it.
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 Posted 11/26/2021  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Die flow lines on the fields tell the story of a wearing die. Keep in mind they will probably polish a coin more than once before they retire the die. Looking at the devices, I'm guessing it was already polished once, and ready for another one at this point. After the third polishing the devices really start to fall apart:

So this die is just about half done in its life span. Several hundreds of the thousands more nickels will be struck with this die.
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 Posted 11/26/2021  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Frankie20 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the instruction. I know you get these same questions over and over from newbies like myself. I do spend a lot of time searching without enough knowledge of differentiating between collectible and big "nothings". I do need to educate myself more. Thanks for the references...and your patience. I'm sure I will still be bugging all of you for help though.&
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 Posted 11/26/2021  3:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's good to continue to ask question as that's how you learn! We really don't mind questions and are happy to help. As mentioned, the various error reference sites are very good, plus don't forget, you can search any topic here on CCF from the text box atop every page here. CCF is your friend; use all our resources and you'll be a pro in no time! Again, ask any questions you might have, we'll help if we can!
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