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I'm sure we've all had a coin that consumed us with questions and research. Mine, so far, is the 1960 D Small Date Lincoln Cent. I've spend hours on this one. So many issues and so many questions I've been researching on VV, Wexler, Coppercoins and here at Coin Community. This time may all be for naught, but it is worth it for a curious mind. I don't mean for you to join me in the rabbit hole, but I thought you might be interested in how I spend my time. LOL  Wish there was a rabbit home SMILIE.      "We are all flawed, some MD and some PMD." NYI Edited by NY Islander
08/22/2022 7:19 pm
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Looks like circulation damage and a possible die chip in the date - a closeup would help. Please explain what interests you in the areas you have circled.
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Just a normal 60 with usual die chips.
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Lots of circles mean lots of questions.
(Pretty decent images but you should be a little more specific about what you questios are.)
If the areas in the circles are raised that is usually an indication of a recess on the die face. Die chips, gouges, dots, scrapes, etc will leave raised areas on a coin.
These raised "things" can be called "Die Markers" (aka Pick Up Points) and are used by collectors to confirm a specific variety.
The circle in the bay to the left of Lincoln's statue is probably circling a design element. It is intended to give visual depth and represents the interior columns on the real Lincoln Memorial. There is an interior column next to Columns 1, 5, 8, &12.
Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow.
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Do not fulfill the rabbit hole till Christmas because could be a good dinner. fulfill the hole in collection. It is small date with the 6 full with material due to the die. Like Pete say those columns 1.5.8.12 always are double due to design. The N encircle mean you see sheriff? Please try to say what is for you different. Thanks, could be interesting's your points.
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Nice pick-up...like the die chip in the date...keep on hunting/posting.
KK
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The die chip issue was the reason for the remaking of the dies that year to the large date design. (Thus the reason there were so many RPMs that year as they were in a hurry to catch up with the production issues that year)
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Working through my rabbit hole coin paid off. Everything on my RHC matches a ADC-1c-1960D(SD)-35, Events A & B, Stage "B". http://www.maddieclashes.com/2547-2/Stick with it long enough and sometimes it pays off. I had a hunch there was something about this coin. "We are all flawed, some MD and some PMD." NYI Edited by NY Islander
08/22/2022 08:27 am
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Rabbit Hole Coin. http://goccf.com/t/428843Do your own homework. Don't rely on the analysis of many of the "experts" who have hundreds of thousands CC posts, written books and are alleged to know coins. Working through my rabbit hole coin paid off. Everything on my coin matches a ADC-1c-1960D(SD)-35, Events A & B, Stage "B". http://www.maddieclashes.com/2547-2/When I originally posted details and my interest in this coin it was novicial. However, many who responded and who are alleged to be far more seasoned than me were skeptical, cynical and dismissed the coin. I'm sure they are reticent to acknowledge their mistakes after reading this post. My advise to all - Do the work. Don't accept the word of the armchair experts. I'm sure the real professionals will agree. "We are all flawed, some MD and some PMD." NYI |
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One of the challenges on this blog is trying to assess static photos and correlating what one sees with written observations. The individual who has the coin in-hand has an advantage. The coin can be viewed under different lighting conditions, at different angles, and under a range of magnification. Meanwhile the static images the community sees remain static.
Congratulations on your discovery and remaining persistent. Spiking the ball can be fun.
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Well, good for you. Glad you sorted it out.
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08/22/2022 4:04 pm
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Thanks ijn, I appreciate your response. You could not be more accurate, and I completely understand the difference between two and three dimensions.
I tried to be polite and got zero response from those skeptics.
NY'ers have a tendency of calling it for what it is. Simply being true to my DNA without apology.
"We are all flawed, some MD and some PMD." NYI |
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Looking over your initial post it's easy to why the feedback you got didn't focus on a clashed dies event. Your original points of focus were on die chips which may be markers for a die clash. I do see a parts of a clash to the west of 1 but that NW to SE streak does not look like the clash referenced on maddieclashes. I've been on the receiving end of several bad calls here but you take the good with the bad and if you aren't precise in what you want answers on it's nobody's fault but your own.
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCLStruck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burrFloating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978 |
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First off, congrats with the find, that's very cool! More information from you, from the get go, would have helped though. As you said, "do the work". Nothing wrong with asking for help, when you cannot figure something out but nothing beats figuring it out on your own.  -makecents-
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Glad to see you were able to research this coin to your satisfaction. Your original post seemed to focus on the die chips which drove the responses you received. There are MANY experts on this forum (I am not one of them) that will provide responses based on your photos and question(s); and they do know what they are talking about. Hope you continue to post your finds and are able to further your numismatic education along with the rest of us. Oh, by the way, the authors of maddieclashes are some of the experts that help us along. You gave good advice when you stated "do the work"--it really helps you form the appropriate questions when you are stumped on something.
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Well, I certainly do agree that there are a lot of people on here with a bad habit of dismissing things too quickly. That said, your original photos weren't very good at all, so I think it's pretty forgivable that they missed something as subtle as this basing their responses on the photos you gave them. It's also important to realize that the "experts" here are not the people with the most posts, necessarily. I would take an opinion from Mike Diamond (obviously), Tanman2001, or TropicalBats over just about any member on the forum with 50k+ posts.
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08/22/2022 6:09 pm
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