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PVC Damage: 1932-D & 1932-S Quarter

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I have two key dates in the Washington quarter series that appears to have PVC damage. They were sitting in an old green Whitman folder for who knows how long. I just rescued them and realized all of the coins in this book had a greenish and sticky-like substance around the rims and reverse. I've never dealt with this before and I've never cleaned a coined knowing that it hurts the value. A little wiped off the 32-S, but I stopped because that may make it worse. Probably should not have tried. As you can tell I'm really inexperienced on this subject. How should I go about getting this junk off these quarters?

PVC-Damage:-1932-D-&-1932-S-Quarter
PVC-Damage:-1932-D-&-1932-S-Quarter
PVC-Damage:-1932-D-&-1932-S-Quarter
PVC-Damage:-1932-D-&-1932-S-Quarter
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Odd I thought even the oldest Whitman Folders were Blue.
Regarless, what you may have is from the glue used to make a Folder. The process is slapping glue on a sheet of paper and dropping the slotted holed cardboard on that. The rear of the slots is shinny from glue. Moisture activates this glue and it attacks coins. Many coins end up with all sorts of markings on the reverses from this.
Try a dip in Acetone. If it's from the glue, should just go away.
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I agree
Put them into a jar of acetone, with lid, for a few days.

Whitman had some premium folders that were green.
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You wrote that you were inexperienced ...

so in case you didn't know, use only pure acetone. It is available at hardware stores.

In my opinion, you are conserving the coins and not cleaning them. Using silver polish to make them shiny would be considered damaging to the coins, as would a bunch of other things.

Experts can tell if a coin has been dipped (in acetone) but I don't think it's the end of the world for that coin if you get the glue off of it. If you ever decide to sell the coin, you could mention that you gave it a bath in acetone. The buyer would appreciate it because if the buyer finds out later they'll feel cheated.
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I am surprised that someone can tell a dip in acetone - I have never heard of this. Maybe they can tell where spots were taken off the coin? I know acetone leaves no residue of itself on the coin.
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I am surprised that someone can tell a dip in acetone - I have never heard of this.

Same here.
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Thanks for the advice. I'll give it a try on some common dates, then the 32's.
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To answer the OP. I had a friends collection in the same type Whitman green folder. This was a complete set , early dates 30's through 50's /60's. I used two baby jars and let each coin soak overnight in pure acetone with the lids on then, pulled the coins out and redid in new acetone for 10-15 minutes. Let the coins sit on a paper towel overnight. Bought a new coin album and in they went.
Did this in a well ventilated garage and out of the sun.
Took awhile but no more PVC.
I'm not sensitive to acetone so no gloves. I did use a tweezers to move them.
Let us know your results.
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Doesn't look like PVC but before pics would've been nice.
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Doesn't look like PVC but before pics would've been nice.


Those are the before pics.

PVC isn't always green; heavy infestations (like seems to be described here) and early-stage infections are whitish/clear. And the use of acetone cannot be detected by any expert. The only possibility is if you use acetone to remove something which covered part of the surface of the coin, which then aged more slowly than the uncovered parts. The result would be pretty obvious, but no different than if you'd used water to remove it. That's why not even acetone is an "always" solution.

These coins leave no choice. Acetone, or worse happens. Even if it isn't PVC, the coins won't suffer for the try.
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...but most volatiles such as Acetone, would not be readily detected if not very recent. Acetone in people's breath, especially diabetics would mess up that "sniff".
Emphasis is mine.

Possible (assuming one was somehow able to keep it from evaporating), but very, very improbable.
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None of the discussion in that thread implies acetone is detectable. The reason is, because it's not.
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Agreed. It would have completely evaporated long, long before the coin made it to the TPG.
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