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I use 2x2 coin envelopes (pink of course ), with all info on the outside..sometimes staple them to Mylar flips.

Anyone do anything different?
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I put my coins into 2x2s, put them in a binder with some trading card pockets, put the 2x2s in, and tape the pockets shut so the 2x2s don`t fall out.
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I use 2x2s with general information and my catalog number, I than record the rest on the information in my data base.
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There should be a THIRD record resource for ANY coin collection, and that includes ancients:

1. information on the 2x2
2. related data base
3. separate folder containing all of the invoice information relating (at least) to all of your more valuable acquisitions. They help to prove provenance. Auctioneers love this sort of information, if you have to dispose of your collection in your estate.
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Very strange AncientNoob, I was browsing through the post and I thought, that hand writing looks very familiar. Sure enough, I bought some coins from you a while back and still have your original labels.
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sel: can you explain or point me a resource to prove providence. Most of my purchases have been smaller but as I work my way up I suspect I should be keeping better records. Will an excel spread sheet work? , etc.

As far as storage, here is what I do:

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Yeah, something like that AN :-)
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Might want to use archival quality flips though (mylar). The softer plastic flips contain plasticizers which will react and create sticky corrosive bright green goo which will ruin your coins.

A large number of my granddad's US coin collection was reduced to melt value due to PVC corrosion after being stored in such flips for half a century.

I'm considering using acid-free paper coin envelopes. The obvious disadvantage is that you can't see through them :( Hate the stiffness of those mylar flips though.
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I used to catalogue electronically and simply label my flips with a reference number to find the ID with, but I had too many coins and when I sold them, it started getting complex.

Right now, I just store the info in my head.

For storage, I'm currently using single pocket wallets. I'm not sure what they are made out of, so I use the few Saflips I own to store the rare, valuable and interesting stuff.
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Mine aren't ancients, but I use a traditional mahogany coin cabinet.

The coins sit on felt 'roundels' within the recesses and underneath the felt I put the tickets (which are small paper disks onto which you write whatever information you want).

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Obviously I also have a paper file with receipts and electronic records, but for some of the coins the tickets go back to the 1950s so are of value in themselves, as they can be used to prove provenance.


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can you explain or point me a resource to prove providence.


There's no one source allranger. For many coins the only information you will have might be where and when you bought a coin.

But I always try to find out and record any details of previous owners. Auction records and catalogues, books, coin tickets can all prove useful in this. My longest provenance relates to a coin that I bought a few years back without knowing any of its history. So far I've managed to find it in the following

sale of F A Walters collection Sotheby 26-30 May 1913 #608 (part, 6 coins)
when it was bought by Baldwins for G R Francis who published it in the British Numismatic Journal 1918 Plate III, 2,
it was then sold with Francis' other coins through Glendining in Mar 1920 (Lot#160 (part, 2 coins))

..not yet sure who bought it at this point but it ended up in
Lockett IV English Part ii Oct 1956 #2309 (but sadly not illustrated in the catalogue) when it was again bought by Baldwins (for £5/10/- !)

.. after which again the trail goes cold for a few years until it appears in M Rasmussen's List 6 in Apr 2004 where it was bought by the person I bought it from in 2005!

As you might guess, I probably spend nearly as much time researching provenance as searching for coins to buy. So don't be throwing out those old labels. In time they might prove valuable or of interest to your kids or other collectors!
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I use 2x2 plastic safe flips with a paper tag that has the info (country, ruler, date(s), legends), catalog number and Zeno number if the coin is on zeno. Back side of the tag gets provenance, and other notes.

I made a template in MS Word so that I can type my cards and just print them out on card stock and cut them. It's much easier (and neater) to squeeze in long Islamic titles on typed cards than doing it by hand. If anyone wants my template you can pm me and I'll e-mail it over.

I've also been using a binder with 2x2 pages to keep more coins. I had been using boxes for years but for some reason I just started to like the pages. No idea why. I have separate binders for my material on Zeno (arranged by Zeno number), ancients, Islamic, East Asian (general), Chinese, and Indian. I still have stuff in boxes, mainly doubles and the chunkier coins that won't fit nicely in binders, mostly Indian coppers.

I'm still trying to find a cost effective way to store my odd and curious. Trays are too expensive. Right now most of it lives in manila envelopes in a file box.
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the odd and curious present a problem for me also. giant coins and strange shaped coins like byzantine trachy cups...right now I have them stored in postcard slips in a box. thought about trays, at least to showcase some of the more awesome coins.
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I've see trachea kept in cointains with a bit of foam to keep them wedged in there. Not the most elegant solution, but apparently it works. I just mine in flips.
Every now and then I look at jewelry trays (the classy felt lined ones) for some of my coins, but then I'd need to get a box to store them and find a place to put them. Someday I'll get them.
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