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Numismatic Newbie's US Copper-Nickel-Silver Short Type Set

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Thought I would post my United States 19th and 20th Century Type Set in Capitol Plastics Holder. I think they make one with the gold types too, but mine only covers copper, nickel and silver. I started it in 1988 and got sidetracked for years with family and career. Recently I joined my local coin club, made some friends and started looking to resume trying to complete this set. Originally I started wanting it to be XF or better, but am thinking in terms of AU and better. The toughest coin in the set is the Draped Bust Dollar which is AU50 has a graysheet value of about $7,000, but really nice ones can be found online by major dealers for about $5,500. Still at $5.5K, that one coin is still about 55-65% of the value of the set. I have really enjoyed learning as I've put this together over different phases in my life. I have a few coins that I have bought but not inserted into the holder yet including:

1804 Draped Bust Half Cent in VG-F Details (looking to upgrade to XF)
1852 Large Cent in VF-XF
1863 Copper Nickel Indian in AU55-MS63 (love Civil War coins)
1865 2 Cent Piece in AU
1979 Susan B. Anthony dollar in Proof

I am missing about 13 coins and I am looking forward to the process of completing it. I made a lot of mistakes along the way but I have enjoyed every step of the way.

Let me know your thoughts and suggestions. Don't be offended if I don't take you up on it; at the end of the day it will be the set that reflects me. And please share what you like to do in coin collecting, here or in your own thread.

My set is below. Figured I preferred this old school holder to the dansco 7070 or having a stack of slabs. I really like raw coins, because it forces me to learn and really become intimately knowledgeable about the coins I collect. Happy hunting.



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 Posted 12/01/2016  12:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Back in 1988 I was young and very optimistic and bought the holder below. I had seen an XF+ set then and dreamed about putting one together. I bought two key dates in the series, the 1916 and 1927-S in AU which I had slabbed at 55 and 50 respectively. I bought those coins for less than $5K. I should have bought the 1918-S/7 overdate and I still kick myself for not doing so. I thought overdate varieties were overrated and not truly rare coins, but errors. Another mistake.

Even though collecting by date and mintmark was much more popular than type collecting back then, putting together these 38 coin set of mostly common dates was mind-numbingly unattractive. I really enjoy the variety of type sets, that it encompasses almost the entire history of the country, and takes you from one era to another seamlessly. Numismatics is a marriage of history, art, commerce, metallurgy, every day life, and the imagination of scoundrels. What a great hobby!

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Wow Dude! You have an awesome set! All of this from raw coins is also very impressive. I like looking at the reverses and seeing how the depictions of the eagle has changed from one generation to the next. Looking at this I realize that you are in a very different league of collectors than I am. Keep us all posted on your progress.

I don't think I have much in the way of helpful suggestions for you but I will offer my humble idea for your consideration. Don't be afraid to buy a slabbed coin to get what you want. It is sooooo satisfying to crack that plastic.
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 Posted 12/01/2016  09:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not bad. I see you have some decent coins in there already, so I have no doubt you can fill the rest of the holes (except, perhaps, the bust dollar).
What I don't get is that a set that only has one spot for a large cent asks for a bust dollar. Maybe you can put a filler in that hole.

As a side note, 1988 is my car's model year.

Good luck with the set!
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Thanks. I look forward to reading how your collectioms are comimg together. I am def thinking about cracking slabs, but still have reservations about it. And hopefully ill be lucky enough to get an au bust $. Happy hunting amigos.
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That is a nice looking set so far. I am sure it will look really good when you finish it.
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A wonderful set of type coins. Obviously you have already given this set much love and attention which will make the completion of it that much more satisfying.

As for slabbed coins, especially on the more expensive ones, one idea I've used is to take good photos of the coins in the slab, obverse and reverse, then glue those photos to the right size coin, and use that in place of the actual coin.

You still get to fill your set, but don't have to break out expensive coins from their slabs.
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Type sets are nice because they can be anything you want.
There is no specific definition for a type set.
Compare a 7070 with a PCGS or NGC Registry Set.
They don't agree 100%.
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Nice set!
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 Posted 12/02/2016  09:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Debrajc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's beautiful!

I share your love for raw coins on display.



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Thanks to all.

I am looking at Seated halves and it looks like a nice au runs about $300. I really like the 1853 one year type with arrows and rays. I saw one that was PCGS au53 for $600 but looked gray with flat luster. Will look for a better one, but do you think I should spend 2x and get the 1853?
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nice
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Good start!
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Really cool set numismatic_student! The bust half is beautiful, and I love that Barber quarter! Great start!
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Made the decision to add the recently acquired 1852 Large Cent and 1863 CuNi Indian Head cent to the holder. Decided to upgrade and sell the 1805 Draped Bust Half Cent as the grade was too low, but more importantly, the details were too difficult to see. I also could not find the 1965 Two Cent Copper - will need to locate that. Lastly, the Susan B Anthony dollar is in a proof set and didn't feel like breaking the set to extract just that coin. So I will look to buy a proof SBA$ as cheaply as I can.

Took new pictures of the holder and the cents that I added. There are two things that are really annoying about this holder. There are 12 screws that need to be fastened and unfastened to access the coins. And a lot of dust shows up in the large surface area between the plastic sheets as you can see from the pictures. Will need to get a can of compressed air and do some cleaning.







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