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Well, the obverse appears to have a rather large bubble in the copper plating. It's not unusual to have bubbling on coins of this period. It is unusual to have them so large. If the plating has been broached (breached), there's likely zinc rot behind it. I don't see a connection of the obverse & reverse conditions. The reverse seems to have been partially struck through something round. Either the anvil die itself is damaged, leaving an incuse round shape [in which case there are more than a few of such coins], or ... something damaged the planchet and excess metal flowed into that. I'm not overly confident of the last of these comments. I'll just sit here scratching my head for awhile.  Edited by Biedercoins
03/04/2017 07:40 am
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Someone struck the reverse of the coin so hard that it forced the metal to be displace outward on the obverse of the coin.
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I'm a total numis-noobie here, but....i just saw a quarter with a similar problem in another website...described as "rolled in wire". The website explains that wire was rolled in the metal before the strike.
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It kind of looks to me like the reverse damage is incuse which would mean it probably took a hit. ( PMD) |
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The metal fragments on the reverse look raised to me. If it's PMD, how would the surface between the columns not be affected at all? |
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I see something like scratches where something turned/rotated while making this damage. PSD |
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Quote:If it's PMD, how would the surface between the columns not be affected at all? That's what gives it away. If it were a die issue the surfaces between the columns would be the first to be affected since they are the higher point on the die. What ever caused the damage in it's later life didn't go deep enough to affect the area between the columns. I'm pretty new at this and hope my explanation is correct. |
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I'm gonna say it's copper shavings...coin was face up on top of a hard surface, then a board placed on top and hammered w/ a heavy hammer...imprinted material did force thru, notice the cheek is puffed out as well...is coin bent slightly, or have a parabolic effect?
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If it were a burr between the dies, then the opposite side would be normal. It is not, so it was altered after it was struck. The reason it didn't affect the bays is that the columns took the the hit. If it were deeper a deeper hit/damage, then the plating would probably would have been split. But it is not. Just the obverse balloons out. from the hit on the reverse. So it may have been more that one thing that happened when this coin was damaged or a different angle may have cause the bulged area.
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Should I try taking different pic's from different angles?
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Yes, do try some different photo angles and give us a "braille" description: what's incuse and what's sticking out because I don't think we're all on the same page.
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Okay, I went and dusted off grandpas old magnifying glass its a monster, but it gave me a better look see at the problem. It looks like a hard hit may be right, but I took a couple more pics. The big gap on the right has been pushed down and shows the inside layers of the coin, not some object. I still am not sure about the left side.   |
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