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Pillar of the Community
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If you auction them, then you will realize market prices. You can't really unclean a cleaned copper coin. I've auctioned many coins through Great Collections with good success. Best of luck.
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New Member
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Meaning the average value for the letter grade, not factoring in "cleaning"? I have been reading how a cleaned designation can reduce values anywhere from one letter grade level, to 50% or more, then started getting scared. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Well, you can always keep them if you want. Not sure what your are asking.
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New Member
 United States
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Wish we could! We needed to sell because of financial issues, hoping to help pay off medical bills and such. I guess my question is how much will the "cleaning" designation reduce the estimated price we would get on auction, over what we would get if it was "uncleaned"?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Each coin will stand on its own merits at auction.
Some coins will take a hit due to the cleaned designation but no one can define exactly what that hit will be.
The bottom line, when all is said and done, did the set realize more than you expected.
Time will tell. Please keep us posted!
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: I guess my question is how much will the "cleaning" designation reduce the estimated price we would get on auction, over what we would get if it was "uncleaned"? The first part of your question will only be known after an auction, the second part doesn't really matter. Again, best of luck. The 1877 does have very good eye appeal, and I would think you will get pretty good money for it, if that helps. BTW, do you happen to have an 1872 in the collection?
Edited by jimbucks 02/23/2019 01:33 am
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New Member
 United States
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I should have been more specific, I guess, and singled out, say, the 1877.. I get what you are both saying though, but when you see people say it can take away significant value (of some coins), its a bit worrying. Better to be prepared if it will. It does seem that NGC must have strict specifications for "cleaned", since the local professional coin dealer only said a couple coins "might" have been.
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The cleaning on your 1877 is not too severe but it is obvious. The issue is that so many collectors would not buy a cleaned coin at all (myself included) which will narrow the pool of bidders a bit. But based on the appearance of your coin I wouldn't expect the value to be diminished lower than 50% of a straight-graded one.
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 United States
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Is that the scratch above the O in ONE?
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New Member
 United States
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Quote: The 1877 does have very good eye appeal, and I would think you will get pretty good money for it, if that helps. BTW, do you happen to have an 1872 in the collection? Yep, it's a 100% complete set.. The 1872 is nice and was graded as XF, and again with the details specification for "cleaning", which even the local professional coin dealers who saw it disagree with. But go figure.
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New Member
 United States
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I am seeing several others not take the cleaning designation as "written in stone", nor necessarily destroying the value of a coin, since in reality, pretty much every coin that anyone who wasn't necessarily a collector had any interest in certainly "cleaned" it to some extent at some time over the last 140 years or so..even rubbing it with their shirt and such. I guess it's really a question what the subjective threshold is to categorize it as "cleaned". What if the item was done over 100 years ago, would that be the same? Also, something could effectively be re-graded by another TPG and categorized as uncleaned. Several of the coins NGC claim "cleaned", our local dealers who also examined them claim are not.
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New Member
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Quote: Is that the scratch above the O in ONE Not sure, I never noticed any scratches, actually. It's possible, maybe that little spot to the top and left of it? Have to wait until the high res pics come in, and I'll check the other pics I took to see if it shows it better.. Is there some significance if the scratch was there, or were you just trying to locate where it is? Lol
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Valued Member
Canada
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I think he was trying to find out why NGC called it scratched. In hindsight though, I would've taken the 14k and ran with it. Especially since all the keys are details coins.
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 United States
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Quote: Is there some significance if the scratch was there, or were you just trying to locate where it is? In your first image of the reverse, it looks like a line/scratch there.
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Quote: In your first image of the reverse, it looks like a line/scratch there That's a clash from the Indian's neck. Anyway, the scratch was supposed to be on the obverse of the 09-S. Maybe it's running in front of the neck and through the neck?
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