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Do The Enforcement Law Agencies Know About This Site?

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 Posted 02/01/2021  10:05 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi, I was astonish to see this site with the HQ in Texas.
Here I quote what they advertise.

I already denounced this site to Canadian authority.


"Our Vision We focus on producing the premium quality products. As we understand the customers' needs, we make counterfeiters as per their need and to allow them to spend as much as they want without facing any issues in regards to money or other requirements. In pandemic times, many people are jobless, so we do our best to provide counterfeiters money at an affordable price so that they can buy what they wish for. Money has always been an issue for many, buy now your problem is taken care of by counterfeitersDoc. Even when we produce ID's or important documents, we ensure we give you the best that cannot be noticed by anyone."

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 Posted 02/01/2021  10:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I swear, the main purpose in life for more and more people these days, is to separate you from your money by any means. Old people like me remember a much less dishonest world. At least that is my perception.
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 Posted 02/01/2021  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree, I am old also in 60's. But for me to have online web with this things go far over any imagination.
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 Posted 02/01/2021  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I feel sorry for the youth. The way things are today is accepted as the norm.
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 Posted 02/01/2021  10:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would imagine the authorities are well aware of this outfit that claims to be based in Houston, Texas.

My guess is they most likely have roots in either mainland China or N Korea. Hard to enforce US laws on this kinda stuff when it's outside our borders.

Maybe they can figure out a way to kill the website.before too much damage occurs.
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 Posted 02/01/2021  11:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I just went there and saw their "Why CHoose Us" section. One of the entries is because they are

Quote:
Trustable: We are a certified company to issues registered and trust certification and every certificate verified over the official website.


Trustworthy counterfeiters.

Well, we "trust" worse nowadays.
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 Posted 02/01/2021  11:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Seems to be a sales outlet for Chinese fakes.
Part of the policy of these sorts of outfits is make it clear that they are selling 'copies, counterfeits or whatever' and not selling fakes of genuine coins by deception, and as such, are able to sidestep the Law.

In Europe, much the same sort of situation exists for marketing non genuine ancient coins to tourists. In fact, it is illegal to sell genuine ancient coins without a license, because they are part of a nation's heritage, but it is quite legal to sell copies of them, irrespective of how deceptive that copy may be, so long as they make it clear that there is no intention to deceive.

In both cases, the buyers of such products often play it 'dumb', and attempt to re sell them for a profit anyway.
The only recourse is to expose them, and it is part of ebay policy to simply withdraw such products from sale, a policy that is not always reliable.

If in any way you are suspicious, post here on the CCF and also seek the opinion of a professional coin dealer.

Internationally, it is a very 'gray' area for the Law, and so is a very difficult area to police reliably and effectively.

My reaction to all of this is to learn as much as you can about fake coins and their methods of manufacture, how to test for them, and how to compare against genuine examples.
It is the method of manufacture of fakes that most reliably exposes them.
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 Posted 02/02/2021  12:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice and appointed answers.

Here in Canada only the fact to be in the possession of a fake note or coins could be considerate criminal.

Wright to say: as like collectors we must adapt. To adapt to those new fake we have to be in the possession of those replica and analyze. With pleasure I will do this kind of study but my country laws forbid me been in such possessions.

In order to be able to recognize Chinese real notes and stamps, I spend 4 month in China.

So in fact I understand that the market will be flood at one point with those fakes and we will pay the price.
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 Posted 02/02/2021  09:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chafemasterj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just shaking my head. What the heck is going on?
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Can you give us a link?
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 Posted 02/02/2021  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
www.counterfeitersdoc.com
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Sounds like a trap.

Just a reminder... Keep away from the political commentary! This is not the venue.
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I'll await a knock at my door now that I opened the link.....

Sadly, more and more these days, given the option, people seem to choose the road MORE traveled. The high road is under construction apparently.
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The site is registered in Malaysia on 9/14/2020.

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A second after logging onto their site they want to CHAT with you; Must be really busy.
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