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I'm pretty happy with APMEX, so when it advertised ... "1840-1873 Liberty Seated dollar, VG" ... for $300, I took the plunge. I was disappointed when I received this, which looks cleaned to me:  On the other hand, 1860-O might be a better date than expected. If I had to grade it, I might say "F12 Details". Thoughts? Edited by pristine2
03/17/2021 1:43 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Definitely cleaned. They should be embarrassed.
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Pillar of the Community
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Moral of the Story, don't buy coin "from stock" with the "we pick the coin" disclaimer.
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Pillar of the Community
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Yes, definitely cleaned. Perhaps F details, but a problem-free G or VG would be more desirable.
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APMEX is not a coin dealer. They are a bullion dealer. Bullion stackers do not care if it has been harshly cleaned.
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I'd want to hand pick a Seated dollar for that kind of money. I'd send it back if you can, I am not dead set against cleaned coins in all cases but this one has had a pretty harsh one. |
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Quote:I'd want to hand pick a Seated dollar for that kind of money. I'd send it back if you can, I am not dead set against cleaned coins in all cases but this one has had a pretty harsh one. I agree.  I know my no-motto Seated dollar has been cleaned at some point in her life, but I bought it at a coin show knowing exactly what I was getting.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Ouch! I love the history of these and finally got one after years of wanting one. But I agree with how badly this has been cleaned you should look for another.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Cleaned, VG-8 sharpness. Net grade would be lower. 1860 O is not a better date, it is one of the more common ones and along with 1859 O the most common in MS as at least three possibly four bags of MS coins of the the two dates came out of the Treasury holdings in 1962
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Dang, this Liberty had a rough life  Those 'sight-unseen' offers always scared me, especially if it isn't straight-grade slabbed... at least then you'd know it is problem free even if it's ugly |
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Lotsa feathers on that bird. Overall, I think that F-12 details is fair to say. There are no heavy marks or dings, either. A great many of the lower grade LSD's seem to have been cleaned. I've gotten a few good deals from APMEX; this, based on the fact that they're more of a clearinghouse, lacking the skills of a learned numismatist. As such, given the quantity of coins that passes through their hands, they can be cherry-picked. |
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It's going back. They won't fuss about it. In eight years or so this will be my fourth return, I think. APMEX does supply limited numismatic grade stuff, and it is pretty accessible and reasonably priced. I've actually had some good experiences with APMEX. Here's what came with the cleaned dollar:  I'm happy with that one. I've also had great luck with their uncertified random date coins. Sent me a "random date" 1935 BU Walking Liberty half that NGC graded out at MS66. Pretty nice gold specimens, too. I've bought a zillion random date Morgans of various grades, including a nice 1902-s that PCGS graded at VG-10, and an 1896-P that earned MS64+ from PCGS. |
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Sounds like the need to return an unsatisfying coin is a small price to pay when most of your purchases are pleasing. The quarter looks like a good one and an MS-66 1935 Walker is a great result from a generic buy. Congrats!
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Here's what came with the cleaned dollar: Excellent! Not a total loss of time then. |
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Even though it's cleaned, it's still a very beautiful coin mate ;).
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Posted 03/17/2021 1:52 pm
