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1936 Lincoln Wheat Cent Doubled Die - DDO-003, FS-103

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Wrapped up a bag of 1930's cents. This one was one of the finds.

1936 Lincoln Wheat cent doubled die - DDO-003, FS-103


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What makes these dies easier to determine which one of the three dies it is? The Liberty on the 'R':
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1936-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent-Doubled-Die---DDO-003,-FS-103
The 001 has the normal 'R'. The 002 and 003 have the broken hub on the 'R'.
But keep in mind that the broken hub on the 'R' is also on normal dies. So that marker only counts when the variety is present.
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Great find!
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Very nice! Strong variety and a solid example.

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 Posted 08/27/2021  5:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Subtle and cool.
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Thanks! And I agree, while it is shows strong doubling it is in fact rather subtle and easy to miss.
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I think this forum needs a new category.
We could call it "tropicalbats has Errors"


BTW, your recent coin is very impressive - great find!
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That's funny! When I'm around I do tend to post a fair number of things, as I think it helps folks understand what the real deal looks like so they can find them as well. Plus hey, it's an error and variety board so why not post some! I'll be gone again in about less than three weeks, so gotta post while I can.
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Always enjoy seeing your finds.... and with that photo of your desk/work area I got a feelin a lot more to come.
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Cool find!
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I find these examples encouraging to new and seasoned collectors as it helps us see something that we may have missed before. I like these.
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I agree with all the positive comments. Keep on posting the excellent photos of your finds TB. I only get a little jealous.
Thanks for the broken "R" info Coop. It will help when looking through handfuls of obviously not the "big" one 1936's. I also find a number with the leg of the "R" completely gone.
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Very nice find!
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I have to say, all joking aside, that seeing your errors and the doubling on these coins makes it much easier to be able to tell the differences between MD and true doubling. Just being told how they are supposed to look is one thing, but actually seeing it locks in the information for future reference.
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Thus studying the attributed dies, will give you more of a heads up on what to look for, instead of blindly looking edge of the devices. The action for a doubled die is on the spread in the center of the devices. Forget looking at the inside/outside edge of devices, that is where you will find Machine Doubling. Look for the spread:
1936-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent-Doubled-Die---DDO-003,-FS-103
Sometimes it is not seen right off the bat. but look to where the centers of the devices are taller/wider than normal. Also note on this one all edges of the devices are there.

Not so on machine doubled devices:
1936-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent-Doubled-Die---DDO-003,-FS-103
Did you see where the contour was removed on on side of the devices?

So a question that came up to me. What is contour? Contour show the highest points on the devices being lighter and the lower parts of the devices darker:
1936-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent-Doubled-Die---DDO-003,-FS-103
Do you see the light to dark on these images and how the contour was removed by MD?
Also contour shows what direction is light is coming from:
1936-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent-Doubled-Die---DDO-003,-FS-103
Note what direction the light is on this image? It is pretty obvious. So contour show you more about details. Light on a building helps us to marvel at the designers work:
1936-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent-Doubled-Die---DDO-003,-FS-103
Light and shadows help us to enjoy the colors.
1936-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent-Doubled-Die---DDO-003,-FS-103
A bit of color:
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It is like we there then.


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Greatly appreciate the feedback noting that my posting actual varieties and errors is useful. It is time-consuming but as long as it remains helpful for others to learn to see what is what then I'll keep on keepin' on.

And Sheldius, it is also of note that there are doubled dies on 1936 with the fully broken leg of R in LIBERTY. So ya kinda gotta look at everything on all of those, but if it's that little nick out of the leg of the R then usually die 2 or 3 so a good one.
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