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2022 D Penny DDO / DDR ?

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 Posted 02/07/2022  5:52 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Dudeld to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I got this Brand New 2022 D penny yesterday in my change. I can't tell if is Machine Doubling or if is a DDO / DDR. You can really seee it in the word LIBERTY. Ijust really can't tell
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 Posted 02/07/2022  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Willburton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those pictures are really close up and hard to tell. Doubtful knowing Denver ( they have many less doubled dies than Philadelphia). But the 2022 coins are out! I found a Washington with a nice Rim Fin!
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 Posted 02/07/2022  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SamCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
combination of MD and Die Deterioration Doubling. Not a doubled die.
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 Posted 02/08/2022  02:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dudeld to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here what it looks like to me I put arrows to show where I thought no it is doubling
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 Posted 02/08/2022  04:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
. SamCoin nailed it.
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 Posted 02/08/2022  1:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dudeld to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is this not a DDO either
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To tell, you need to ask? How are the devices affected? Are they affected on the:
1. Outside/inside edges of the devices? Or are they widened in the centers of the devices.
2. Are the devices the same size as normal devices?
3. On Machine Doubling, those area mentioned on the #1 tells me you are looking at the wrong areas searching for doubled dies. It on the centers of the devices that is where you will see spread. This one is not the classic Machine Doubling but a higher bounce Machine Doubling. That is where it helps to see side by sides. Are the devices enlarged? Or normal sized?
Side by sides show you what is normal and what is altered by hub doubling:
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Always make your images horizontal to see the differences. Note on the top image and the lower image, it appears the devices are the same size. But on the single squeeze dies, they sometimes distort the devices. So the bottom one at first appears normal. But note the lower part of the 'RTY' devices? Compare them with the normal devices. The is a slight hub distortion on these devices. That is hub doubling. The hub on the single squeeze dies only has one press to make this imprint into the die. Well this one moved on that area, sot it created a doubled die on this areas. The die is showing doubling different than the normal die. So it is a doubled die. Back to the images above? What area is affected? The centers, or the outside edges of the devices? Note these devices are the push Machine Doubling. The devices are normal size, but distorted by the machine, not by the die. So it is not a doubled die, but an post striking issue. Machine Doubling. On Machine Doubling it can vary from strike to strike depending on the issue of the machine. But a doubled die will look the same strike to strike. The last image if it is a different coin, should be move to a new thread. Always nice to know all details about a coin date/mint and what is appears to be. To me the last image might be a lot more interesting.
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 Posted 02/08/2022  2:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gorham_collector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well said lots of information coop
My comments below aren't related to your post coop

Seen a comment that said MD but it defiantly is not md there would be extra metal like a staircase if that makes sense.
Yea all it is lighting issues and Die Deterioration.
Also when u think of the term doubled die do not think of the doubled dies you know of the old type like 1955 1972 etc that kinda doubling you'll never see on shield cents.

You want to look for extra thickness that's the main thing u want to look for them secondly notching at the bottoms of letters or date and separation will be seen along with that extra thickness.
Extra thickness and distortion is the key.

Here's what md looks like the pics don't show md at all

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Right area affected die Outside edges and inside edges of devices. Contour is removed. Thus the devices are reduced in size rather than enlarged in size. Machine Doubling.
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