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1985-P Washington Quarter-Extra Ridges ?

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Been awhile since I posted a coin on here. I like the image optimizer that's being used. Makes things easy. I wondering what caused, what looks like extra ridges on the rim of this quarter. I think I have seen something like this on here before, but can't remember the explanation. Thank you for looking.
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It's a collar clash. LINK https://www.error-ref.com/collar-clash/
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That is a nice collar clash, one that didn't get caught early on and is now worn down. Nice grab. I see a lot of collar clashes on dime, but not too many on quarters.
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Thanks folks. Couldn't think of what it was called or if it was even an error.
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10-4 on the Die event
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Alright, I've got three issues. The first that there is a "delete post" option. I don't know if that should be there, we should have to answer for our incorrect ideas and they should be left, for discussion or correcting. My second issue, I used it,(never have before). My third and final issue, I need someone sharper than me to explain what a collar clash would be classified as. Is it a "die event" or an error? I feel this might be a grey area and maybe both, after I thought about it.

The post I deleted, refuted Dearborn's idea that this is a die event, that it was in fact an error. After I thought about it, it is something that happened to a die, during it's ongoing life, an event.... But is the die physically put in the collar? If so, the fact it was not put in there properly, would that not make it an error?

Big heads, little head and medium heads, I would like some input on your thoughts on this. Sorry for deleting a post, I feel dirty.
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I wear gloves to keep from feeling dirty while working with coins. /j
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To make the conversation even more interesting, Error-Ref.com calls a collar clash not a "die event" or an "error" but a "die error".



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TropicalBats has a topic not long time ago with this point and Mike give the opinion. Maybe some of Moderator can see easy the explanation from Mike. Me I do not see Die Error, Me I see more as a Strike Error, I could be wrong but IMHO the collar is not a part of the Die, nor an material error but it is an important mechanical piece of the strike process.
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Stumbled on this that I totally forgot about, thought it was neat...http://goccf.com/t/145297
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... Error-Ref.com calls a collar clash not a "die event" or an "error" but a "die error".

Makes sense.

Hmmm ... and a "Die Error" produces a variety.
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Hah! That made me laugh!
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Thanks for the info and links, guys! Maybe more will chime in. There have different wordings about collar clashes but there has been a consistency, "error" is almost always involved, even if it's paired with other terms. I don't know, maybe thinking too hard about it but it just bothered me.
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Hmmm ... and a "Die Error" produces a variety.
It's odd and I don't know that I ever paid attention to this either but the term "error", comes up in some explanations of doubled dies.
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