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2023 P Lincoln Cent With Nice Feeder Finger Die Scrapes . Or?

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2023 P Lincoln Cent with nice Feeder finger die scrapes .... or?

I found this one recently while roll searching and the die scrapes on the reverse caught my eye. (Defintiely die scrapes, but my phone camera hasn't been producing very clear images lately.)

The die scrapes are across the center third of the reverse (among the vertical bands of the shield) in a SW to NE direction, above ONE CENT and both edges of the shield.

I thought I remember reading that new(er) coin production eliminated the need for feeder fingers so there shouldn't be finder finger die scrapes on dies anymore.

Hopefully someone here can share some info on the status of feeder fingers in current coin production.

Thanks in advance for taking a peek and hopefully refreshing my grey matter.
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 Posted 08/28/2024  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lawest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Nice one!
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Looks cool.
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So, I've been waiting for a moment to bring this up and this is it. Hopefully we can get JC up to bat to explain. I just ran across this listing a while back and was a bit taken back by it.... So, scroll all the way down to the bottom and then go back one listing and you will find RCD-1c-2021-02. Read what is says about the reverse. About the feeder fingers not being used anymore, I'm of no help.

LINK https://cuds-on-coins.com/pre-cuds-...esent-rcd-2/
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By the way, NICE whatever those are.

I have always thought they were from Feeder Finger Damage.
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Thanks guys and that's very interesting Makescents.

Maybe this one is from die polishing (like the one you point out in the link). But these striations are thin.
In the link above, the die gouges go in the same direction but are much wider.

I did just come across this information about feeder fingers by Pete Apple. On Joe Cronin's "Mint Errors Explained" site, there was a post there Tuesday Aug. 27, 2024 dealing with feeder fingers.

Pete Apple stated:
"... There have been at least twelve different coinage press types used by the US Mint over its lifetime. There were 3 basic types of feeder mechanisms used by these presses: Belt Feeder (1837 to 1905 only), Finger Feeder (from 1836), and Dial Feeder (1836 to 1864 and 1895 to present) ..."


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Interesting specimen here.
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I like it, whatever it turns out to be. Good eye.
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Interesting find never the less. Strange they are on some of the design too......
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Pretty interesting find.
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So the Cuds site text discusses that trail dies are from a rotary polishing tool. I guess that would make sense, grinding or whizzing would leave parallel lines.

Nice close up photos. Looks like maybe the phenomenon also occurs on the bottom part of the shield as well?
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Sorry, I guess I did not make my point and don't mean to take away from feeder fingers not being used anymore argument, but that goes to the point of what I was showing in the link. Ok, yours are thin, the link is thick, but they are going in the same direction and in the typical direction and areas they have been the whole time the shields have been in use. We have been told, up to this point, this was Feeder Finger Damage, which made sense to me. So now you have the information about the feeder fingers not being in use anymore and the link I provided about these being trails. Do you not see a correlation? I have a hard time understanding how they are trails, that is created by a circular polishing, I see nothing circular about it. Back to feeder fingers not being used anymore, are the trail dies a scape goat? That was what I was getting at.
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Yours and the link pics.




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That is a great and unusual find!
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Perhaps I misunderstood. I assumed the rotary tool would be spinning at 90 degrees to the surface, so that only the brush edge would touch the die face.
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