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What can folks tell me about my latest add to my odd collection?  |
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I like it even with the corrosion. Obverse looks like VF details- corrosion. Reverse looks like a weak strike along with corrosion. To me the more important side would be the obverse which in your case has nice eye appeal. Any 18th Century coin is a welcome addition to any collection. Are you sending it to a TPG? Congrats! Oh wow I thought it was a 1795 until I enlarged the photo to see it is a 1793. Edited by MisterT
05/18/2025 8:50 pm
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I like it! Nice purchase. A great addition to anyone's collection.  Errers and Varietys.
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Regardless of condition, the fact that it's a 1793 makes it very special indeed. Those are very rare and valuable, more so than even the Chain Cent. Can you tell us more about it, where did you get it, it appears raw so are you going to get it graded, have you attributed the Sheldon variety, that kind of thing. Edit: yes as Hondo says, first things first, it needs to be real. Needs to be in a slab. Til then all bets are off. Edited by TimNH
05/19/2025 12:00 am
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Having read burfle's posts for the last few years, I'm inclined to think that not all is as it seems here.
Edit: I'm inclined to think that this is a cast counterfeit.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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05/18/2025 11:02 pm
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Don't know anything about Sheldon numbers so cannot confirm if this is genuine or not. My hunch says somehow altered. Obverse has much more detail than the reverse. Maybe counterfeit?
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Interesting addition.  |
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Very interesting. Reverse appears genuine but the obverse looks to my eyes a die struck counterfeit. I think it is similar to an electrotype with two halves fused together, but with one fake side and a ground down genuine reverse.
Or maybe it is a terrible electrotype (usually electrotypes are well done and higher quality). The photo styles and lighting are different from the obverse and reverse so there may be a story behind why that is.
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Large cents are out of my range on counterfeits, but there appears to be too many beads on obverse. All the known 1793 cap varieties have 95 or 97 beads on the border, and I counted 105 beads on the obverse of your example. I also could not find a matching date, but I do not clear photos of all varieties.
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05/19/2025 1:31 pm
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I'm disppointed when people post rare coins, want responses, but don't say where they got the coin, how much it weighs, diameter, how much it cost etc.
It's very rare. Send a pic of the coin to Tom Deck of LargeCents.net and to Shawn at Early Copper Coins. Get their opinion. With rare coins it's safer to assume it's fake until verified.
There are only a few examples online to compare. The font on the date does not match the genuine ones I looked at.
Have it verified as genuine and we will all say congrats!
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05/19/2025 5:13 pm
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With the excitement of seeing a 18th Century US coin, I broke my most basic cardinal rule. "Consider everything counterfeit until I can prove otherwise". These early large cents are not my field of expertise so I defer to the experts on this site. I patiently await the expert opinions and reveal in the hopes to gain more knowledge about this coin.
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That's a great addition, congratulations.
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Additionally, the date font is horrendous, looking like a modern counterfeit. Similar to Morgan dollars, how the design can be very convincing but the date is added by hand. Another theory is that the coin is genuine and the date numerals are added on. That would be strange but would make sense with the natural appearance of the coin and the silly date. Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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I'm disppointed when people post rare coins, want responses, but don't say where they got the coin, how much it weighs, diameter, how much it cost etc.
Send a pic of the coin to Tom Deck of LargeCents.net and to Shawn at Early Copper Coins. Get their opinion. With rare coins it's safer to assume it's fake until verified. Jack Young posted this coin... he collects counterfeits. That, plus the date font... authenticity is not a multiple choice option here.
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