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Pillar of the Community
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877 Posts |
Curious what the CCF thinks of this, grade and details or not?   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7613 Posts |
VF30 and might straight grade regardless of the obverse pin prick at 9 o'clock and a possible old cleaning. All depends on what it looks like in hand. I wouldn't be ashamed of it no matter what it grades! Lovely coin; congrats!
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
18638 Posts |
 VF30 old cleaning this one probably grades straight |
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Bedrock of the Community
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10484 Posts |
Maybe 30 on a good day but I'll stay at 25.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1502 Posts |
Reverse is strong at a 40, denticles (and some stars) on Obverse don't match wear on the lady so possible strike issues. Net high VF - TPG crapshoot, anywhere from P to UNC details  I swing a metal detector and have a knack for finding dirty old coins. Dirt coin restoration projects - https://www.prodetecting.com/restorationsDirt coin restoration blog - https://www.prodetecting.com/blog/ccawDirt coin dig videos - https://www.youtube.com/@prodetecting |
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Pillar of the Community
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I'm also at 25. Not convinced that this one straight grades either. There is an old cleaning and something seems off with the obverse.
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Pillar of the Community
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877 Posts |
Well, someone else swooped in and bought it Sunday morning as it was Buy It Now. So, on to the next one.
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Pillar of the Community
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If the Seller thought for one second that the coin would straight grade it would have been slabbed before it was listed. Seller noted in their ebay listing that the coin "may nave been cleaned at one time" so that gets them off the hook for non disclosure if somebody had asked. Yeah, it may be "In God We Trust" in this old world but at least you did your homework and asked for opinions and several of us thought it was possibly cleaned. I've had my share of problem coins over the past 50+ years and I wouldn't have been ashamed to own this one. It is what it is. (By the way it's BIN price on ebay was 2295$. Not bad, all things considered.) Edited by westernsky
07/07/2025 6:44 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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I think it is a VF-30, very pleasant for the issue.
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Pillar of the Community
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877 Posts |
Westcoon, I had actually contacted the seller through their web site and they agreed to sell for $2,075 direct but I was too slow to react. I would have been good to go since I prefer raw coins. Thankfully there are always more coins to go find!
Thanks all for the feedback!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: Seller noted in their ebay listing that the coin "may nave been cleaned at one time" so that gets them off the hook for non disclosure It may, depending on when it was cleaned. Many old coins being cleaned was an acceptable (although not harshly or "polished" examples) practice many moons ago. (Don't ask me how many moons though - I don't know!  ) |
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That is a tough coin. VF obverse and EF reverse. Definitely cleaned at one time, and it's hard to say if it's market acceptable at this point without examining it in person. Based on photos alone, I'd say a net VF-30 Details, Cleaned. But personally I wouldn't buy a coin like that raw.
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United States
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For what it may be worth, both Seated dollars in my 7070 have been cleaned, probably a long time ago. Regardless, it does not bother me at all, especially when I paid "details" money to fill those two holes and there are worse looking "straight" coins in the album.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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As Paul Harvey use to say "and now for the rest of the story." Turns out this coin made its way into a CACG VG Details holder. I thought this was VF20, VG is ridiculous, IMO. I think I saw this sold listing when I was interested in the coin but dismissed it seeing that it was graded VG and it had a greenish color to the coin. When I looked at it again, I looked at the reverse and it was a clear match with the rim ding just after 4 o'clock. The first seller pics of the obverse obscured several obvious makers like the rim ding at 8 o'clock. As noted by Westcoin, the second seller mentioned possible old cleaning. Three resellers vied for this coin at the first auction. For posterity, here are some pics including CACGs. Also CACG price guide for this details coin was $2,200. I still would not be opposed to owning this coin.     |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Who would really care about a miniscule cleaning to get it at $2200? It may easily very well be worth north of $5000
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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VG is a joke. That Reverse is XF and even if netted on the Obverse, no way.
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Posted 07/06/2025 10:23 am
