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Hi, I'm the guy who listed these coins. Just want to let you all know I most CERTAINLY did not intend to mislead anyone with this auction. I do now see your points about the wording of this auction and will be better about that in the future. However, I want to make clear I had NO communication from this customer before bidding, and have had none since. I have sent him an email and have yet to hear back. Once again, I did not intend to mislead anyone. Thanks everyone.
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Bedrock of the Community
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This guy seems nice enough, I take back my remark "but I feel the seller was creative enough to fool your average buyer. I think it might have been intentional but if it were not then he should take the coins back."If you are not happy with this seller Paul, well, it appears he is a concerned seller and at your service. Oh and welcome to the forum. eugcoins_willUntil now you were just another ebay seller, which sometimes get scrutinized on the forum. Since you came here to make your statement, I believe I might be wrong about saying that you intentionally mislead the buyer. I do apologize.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Eugcoins,
I hope everything works out for everyone involved. I would say that as a third party that it was worded to make people think it was 10 rolls. I know the price says otherwise, but if you printed that off and asked a non coin collector without a price---- they would say it was for 10 rolls. The OP thought he bought all 10 rolls (see first page). I mean $19 for just a few G-F and the rest slicks is not a good price.. now if they are all G-F then it is likely a decent deal for the buyer.
-SWUSC
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Kudos to the seller for posting and making it a two sided story.
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I'm not going to dispute or anything. I don't want to deal with a return. I doubt the sincerity of the seller. I'm going to keep my nickels. I'll decide what feedback to leave
later. Probably just not leaving feedback is best.
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New Member
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Doubt away, there's nothing I can do about that. To further explain, I had these rolls up "buy it now" and they didn't move so I moved them to auction off 1 at a time and like a bonehead didn't think to revise the language. I did not intend to mislead anyone. Sorry Paul for the confusion. However, I don't understand why you chose to ask EVERYONE in the world for advice except the guy who could actually answer your question for sure. Ok, thanks everybody. I've done what I can.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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See the listing was used for 10 rolls. You had it up for 10 rolls and then didn't change it when you went to auction format. So why did you just send one roll other than price? Your intent and what was said in the listing them is totally different maybe but what was said is what matters.
Honestly, as a third party, you deserve negative feedback if you don't send the other 9 rolls.
You just said your self the first listing was for 10 rolls and you didn't change it when it went to auction format. So how was the auction just for one roll? It wasn't!
-SWUSC
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However, I don't understand why you chose to ask EVERYONE in the world for advice except the guy who could actually answer your question for sure. This is something which, as an ebay seller, irritates me to no end. It's not the first time that a seller has found out about an auction dispute appearing here at Coin Community the hard way; my thanks to whoever was nice enough to inform the seller so he had a chance to defend himself. The right of the accused to defend himself is a basic tenet upon which our country was founded, and it does none of us any good to abandon that concept here. |
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I don't understand why you chose to ask EVERYONE in the world for advice except the guy who could actually answer your question for sure. Ok, thanks everybody. I've done what I can. Eug_coins, he didn't come here to ask whether he was getting 1 or 10 rolls! If you read and remember his first post, he was asking if he got a good deal and he was under the assumption that he purchased 10 rolls! I also don't believe that you've done all you can....You can offer him a partial refund (something that would satisfy both of you) since you admitted your error in this forum. Maybe you didn't mean to mislead anybody...but you did. |
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See the listing was used for 10 rolls. You had it up for 10 rolls and then didn't change it when you went to auction format. So why did you just send one roll other than price? Your intent and what was said in the listing them is totally different maybe but what was said is what matters.
Honestly, as a third party, you deserve negative feedback if you don't send the other 9 rolls.
You just said your self the first listing was for 10 rolls and you didn't change it when it went to auction format. So how was the auction just for one roll? It wasn't!
-SWUSC The man made an error. A mistake. Ever made one yourself? You realize your position amounts to Feedback extortion? You just went on my Blocked Bidders' list. |
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Pillar of the Community
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I have made mistakes, but I ate the cost and moved on. That is part of cost of doing business. If a retail store runs an ad for cokes for $0.29 a 2 litter when it should have been $1.29 a 2 litter... the store will sell the 2 litters for $0.29 even though it is at a loss. I sold a roll of War Nickels around a year ago at a huge loss. I messed up the buy it now price. I guess I should have just sent the guy and email saying sorry... "I don't really stand behind my offers...so no sale." Please feel free to block my bids! -SFWUSC |
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Pillar of the Community
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It seems to me that a fair solution to all of this would depend on whether Paul wants to keep the single roll at the price he paid.
If yes, then I would keep the coins but just leave no feedback.
If no, then I think the buyer should refund his money and return shipping as a gesture of goodwill.
A mistake was made. I can't imagine the seller came here to state his side if he wasn't being sincere. If he was trying to rip someone off, why bother posting here?
I had a situation where I bought a collection of Lincoln cents (41-59). When they arrived, they were badly spotted and not at all matching the picture. I got pretty mad and researched the process for filing a PayPal dispute as well as plotted what my neg. feedback would say. But in the end, I emailed the seller who apologized, said the listing should have stated that stock pictures were used but regardless, a badly spotted set should not have been sent out, and refunded my purchase price plus my return shipping even though the listing stated buyer pays return shipping.
I think you owe it to a seller to give them a chance to make it right first.
Ken
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Bedrock of the Community
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See the listing was used for 10 rolls. You had it up for 10 rolls and then didn't change it when you went to auction format. Quote:
To further explain, I had these rolls up "buy it now" and they didn't move so I moved them to auction off 1 at a time and like a bonehead didn't think to revise the language It appears that they were originally listed as multiple BINs in one listing, not a BIN for 10 rolls. If you have a listing with 10 BINs of the same item available, the language would not be confusing as to how many rolls you would receive- it could only be construed as one, not all ten. The only thing the seller, eugcoins_will, is guilty of is copying the auction body from his previous BIN listing without revising it. It may be a bit of a sloppy practice but I see nothing intentionally deceptive or illegitimate about it, especially considering the final price of 48 cents per nickel which is quite reasonable. 10 rolls for $19 is less than face value, did you honestly expect to receive that kind of deal? Communication between the buyer and seller before a bid was placed(or at least before the auction was completed) would have gone a long way in clearing up this matter and that question might have prompted the seller to revise the listing by stating that it truly was for only one roll. It appears that other bidders understood what the auction was for and the final price confirms that. If more bidders thought the auction was for ten rolls, the bidding would have gone much higher. I would like to thank eugcoins_will for coming here and explaining his side of the story to add a bit of clarity to the matter Feel free to stay awhile, you might enjoy yourself here  Edited by biokemist6
06/17/2009 1:58 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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I agree - When in doubt ask. Thanks for posting eugcoins_will - I would ha paid that price in a heartbeat for a roll of V's,
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