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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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I think one could argue that this coin never entered circulation. It looks like coins I've seen in MS holders.
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Pillar of the Community
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I DO have a "pet peave" with the grading systems and the IDEA that an AU coin is just a breath away from MS64, just does not add up....I see far to many in TPG holders of ms 62/63 coins with bag marks all over the place and on the prime focus areas...ARE THESE ALL TO BE CONSIDERED AU NOW? OR are they supposed to be assumed correct? I think we can agree to disagree but there has to be some limits..also photo's hear don't always represent the true look and detail of the coin, which does make a great difference and I do realize most of us don't own the top of the line camera just so we can take a decent photo of our pennies and such... thesse photo's are much better and I would agree with MS63... |
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Pillar of the Community
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it really shouldn't be hard to tell using a 10x loupe. is there rub marks or no? a weak strike will still have flow lines from the minting process, even if they are softer, they will still be there.
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I also believe it likely to be unc.
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Pillar of the Community
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looks to be UNC... Just been knocked around in the bag a bit... nice coin tho...  |
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I would call this an MS-63 coin.
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I agree, a frosty UNC coin.
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This is definitely an uncirculated coin imho.
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Pillar of the Community
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One more vote for Unc. The luster is strong and completely intact from the rims to the devices, with none of the field dullness that shows up on AU Morgans. The scuffs (a.k.a. "luster grazes") on the protrait all look shallow so they won't affect the grade all that much. If the seller says MS-63 I'd call him an honest man (unless he's a woman!).
It looks like a pretty good strike, too. The slight weakness at the ear is very minor IMO. The breast feathers look full and frosty.
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It almost looks like MS-64 PL
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Looks like a solid 63 in the photos and it's hardly a "weak" strike. The strike is at least average and maybe better than average. Quote:
I hope you can see the ringlet of hair and ear clearly because they appear flat from a little wear.
That area is one of the highest points on the coin and often does not fully strike up even on good strikes. |
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you have to remember one thing Thats MOST IMPORTANT,
your thread is based upon the photo's and grading estimates received by the previous photo's given then....And I would have to agree with SD from AU58 to 64 as they were not really good photo's and the details necessary like your close ups you have today make the world of difference........It is OK to not agree with the previous assessment, and better would have been to add these photo's to the previous thread...And I'm not disagreeing with you, rather that there are many here who give hundreds of hours of free research and opinions based on what they are given at the time....Its not fare to to call them out like.... this when a few good photo's makes all the difference ..
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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it looks to be UNC to me from those pictures. I don't see anything that looks like rub on any high points and no breaking in the luster. it also looks like it may have a little die wear but looks sharply struck from these photos to me
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Pillar of the Community
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Gosh, I don't know much, but it's hard to imagine a coin of that luster ever being traded in circulation. If anything had been rubbed off - ANYTHING - it seems like it would've lost a lot more luster. Unless it was traded by people wearing alpaca mittens. =)
The reverse seems like a reasonable strike, but I see your point about the obverse.
Bottom line, if you're not happy with the deal, walk away. There are others out there...
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Definitely Unc.
Edited by coins92
07/13/2010 3:54 pm
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Posted 07/12/2010 5:26 pm
