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I think we should have a repository thread (if not one already exists, sorry if it does!) for folks that think they scored a 70-S small date cent from circulation or from rolls or mint sets (that were overlooked) or are asking for confirmation of small date versus large date.
This topic comes up so frequently (almost daily!) that I think we should have a continuous running thread on this where all the inquiries can go.
Anyone can chime in with their opinions on the attritbution.
Coop: can you post your beautiful pictures of the differences between 70-S small and large date cent here? That way some folks may figure out right away that they have a large date and not need to post.
Post your picture here and your story. We can confirm whether it is a small date, or alas, another wretched large date. Make sure your pictures are clear and close enough for us to attribute the date.
Also if you happen to have a 70-S small date already in your collection, post your picture here to help educate collectors and talk about how you got yours.
I am also curious about how rare it is to find a 70-S small date cent in circulation and how many cents have to be gone through to get one.
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Pillar of the Community
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Picked mine up from a forum member a few years back...  |
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I've just been going through my penny jar and have found 25 large dates. Some I thought were small but alas no. Why have I been saving all the wrong ones all these years? I spent the right ones so you all can find them. Did get some nice wheaties though.
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Pillar of the Community
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They're a low percentage of the '70-S cents in circulation, and most people don't run across huge numbers of '70-S cents in circulation to begin with. I average less than one '70-S per box. If they're 1% of the '70-S population (it's probably much lower considering the 690 million mintage), I might have to go through 150 boxes to find a small date. It could easily be as low as 0.1% of the total mintage (that would imply 3-4 small date dies - maybe there was only one die pair?)
I saw some on display at the coin shop, did the math in my head and just decided to buy one. Who's to say that the one I'd find after 1000 boxes would even be in decent condition?
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Bedrock of the Community
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  Thanks for asking. If you can save these images for reference. Right click to save these to your computer (2 images) or you can copy the thread (hight light area you wish to save, include images and copy and then paste to a word page) and it will copy the images to a word page. |
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My sweet 70-S smally that I found roll hunting...  Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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Pillar of the Community
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I also use the crease/no crease in the corner of the 7 as a marker. The large date has a crease or line, small date does not. However, on more well-circulated pieces, this becomes hard to discern.
Look at the 3rd of Coop's pictures above at the large date example and you can see the diagonal crease or line that I am talking about. This line is absent on small dates, as far as I am aware.
Thanks for posting those pics, Coop!
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Pillar of the Community
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Both Jokingjoker and 52Raymo's coins look small date to me.
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Pillar of the Community
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I went through $100 in cents for The Cent Project back in 2007 and still have the data from those spreadsheets. It said I scored 22 1970-S. All 22 were large date. I wrote that 5 did not have the crease due to being excessively worn but other diagnostics indicated it was large date.
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Pillar of the Community
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Even if we had a specific thread concerning this Variety it is sad to say we would still get the same amount of threads in regards to this topic. I am willing to bet 9.5 out of 10 newbs would just immediately post and not read or research.
IMO
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I think maybe it's easier to tell with the date in context, instead of a close-up:  |
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I am willing to bet 9.5 out of 10 newbs would just immediately post and not read or research.
Agree alas with that wisdom. We could create a 'sticky' ... post coop images which he has shown 1000 plus times ... that might help? Nice animated overlay Captain ... I gave up on roll searching and purchased my PCGS MS64RD example in a Teletrade auction a few years back ... needed a reference coin to tell the difference. Still hunting one from roll searching. David |
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I think the word "opinion" should be removed from the OP of this thread.
Attributing varieties is a science. It IS or it is NOT. No opinion warranted, needed, or actually even requested. Those who cannot tell the difference are not asking for your emotion, they are asking for a factual response - which is not an opinion at all.
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Pillar of the Community
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Your point is well taken, coppercoins, but I cannot edit the original post now.
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Pillar of the Community
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Here is my 70S Small Date which I found in circulation. I usually just turn the coin upside down and it will stick out like a sore thumb if it's the SMALL date or LARGE date. On the small date, the bottom of the 7 is clearly even with the bottom of the zero. Conversely, the bottom of the 7 is well below the bottom of the zero on the large dates. Good luck finding a small date to all!   |
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