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1881-H Single Serif N - Thoughts?

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 Posted 02/04/2020  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As mentioned before, it Trends for about $450 Cdn, but it has been cleaned at some time to remove all the "Vicky crud". I would say that you might be able to get $350-400 for it if you shop around on a few coin sites, but you'll get lowballed first.... you still need 12 posts for this site.
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 Posted 02/05/2020  08:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Phil310 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's hard to say what it would bring since they seldom come up for sale. I doubt that you would be disappointed if you sold it on an ebay auction to the highest bidder.

If you do sell on ebay, put some good clear pictures including close ups of the N's and label it as an "1881-H single serif N".
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 Posted 02/05/2020  09:35 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It would sell really well if consigned to an auction, and the coin is well advertised - and that auction described/featured the coin (or the entire set) as containing the 1881H SSN.

I recommend Geoffrey Bell Auctions: http://www.gbellauctions.com/1.html

Any large cents I have sold over the years through them, have sold well. If you are near Toronto, you can consign the item to Geoffrey Bell Auctions at Metro Coin & Banknote (Jared Stapleton).

http://www.metrocbc.com

Geoffrey Bell Auctions will also be at major coin shows in the GTA if you wanted to discuss your options with them in person (Torex, Coin Expo, Trajan Coin & Stamp Show, and maybe ONA in Hamilton).
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 Posted 02/05/2020  10:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dan-in-crystal-lake to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would agree with SPP's comments about a major auction run by a Canadian coin expert for something as scarce as this coin. I would ebay less interesting material but on something as special as that, auction is best.

A few years ago a brass '59 came in from the wild to a dealer I know in the greater Chicago area. He always sent his Canadian material to ebay, but suspected the '59 was special so he had it graded and certified and then auctioned. He was thrilled with the result except for 1 thing, the auction featured 2 brass 59's!

On something like yours, make sure that there are no others in the auction you choose, it will ensure yours achieves its best result. Good luck!!
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On something like yours, make sure that there are no others in the auction you choose, it will ensure yours achieves its best result.


Given the scarcity of this coin (probably more 1859 brass are known), and the fact that _none_ have ever hit the auction block (to date) - this would be a fun one to watch!!

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 Posted 02/11/2020  10:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sammeli to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry for late response to question,but do you guys think I'm crazy to expect more than more than $1000 at auction after fees paid. I know you guy say none have ever come up auction but what do you guys think I might get for it. Just trying to get a feel for final price.
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 Posted 02/11/2020  10:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You have a group of large cent collectors that pay huge amounts for variety and top graded coins, most likely properly described at a large Canadian Auction you will be happily rewarded.
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 Posted 02/11/2020  10:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Its only my opinion Sammeli, but I think you might do better than a $1,000.00 in one of the bigger actions good luck and if you do decide to sell please fill us in on your results
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 Posted 02/11/2020  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Phil310 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would not be surprised if it sold for $ 1,000.00 at auction. It only takes 2 collectors that really want one to produce a good auction result.
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 Posted 02/11/2020  2:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bosox to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And then there are people who receive good faith offers on a coin and decide to shop the offer off the rest of a coin forum.
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I know you guy say none have ever come up auction but what do you guys think I might get for it. Just trying to get a feel for final price.


Nobody has a crystal ball. Your question will only be answered after the auction hammers down. Just like anything else... your coin is worth only what someone is willing to pay for it.

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And then there are people who receive good faith offers on a coin and decide to shop the offer off the rest of a coin forum.


Yup. Been on the crappy end of that stick a few times with error coins. Sometimes even vest-pocket dealers pull that stunt at coin shows... and then they wonder why I no longer am interested in buying anything off them anymore...
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 Posted 02/11/2020  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do NOT sell as a complete large cent collection. The '81 is probably worth much more than all the rest of the coins put together. I have been lucky enough to have found 2 in my 40 years of collecting ... and only the last 20 or so looking for Vicky varieties. Both were found rare back in the good old days when every dealer had 100's of Vicky cents on their bourse tables. I sold both of them to very accomplished collectors/researchers who both are members of this site. The first one I let go for peanuts (almost what I paid for the whole lot that it was in), because I never knew how scarce/rare they would ever be. It was when we all had just started discussing rare finds and doing research on the old CCRS site and we had similar habits/goals. The last one I sold to someone who I thought deserved it more than any other friend/collector that I knew. You will get a pretty penny for it ... the specific TPG is up to you, PCGS or ICCS. I wouldn't use CCCS.
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If you turned off me as a buyer and bosox as a buyer, I'm not sure you're going to see $1000 after fees.

As a long time variety collector and dealer, I'll remind you there are about 800 major Victoria era varieties to collect, in the various denominations. Far more spectacular than a missing serif.

And as some here can attest, selling varieties is often very difficult. And people rarely get the "value" they want, or the "value" they believe their variety deserves to fetch.

$1000 less fees to you is $1300-$1400 to the buyer (buyer fees + tax, often referred to as " +juice"). Not happening.

Some of us are simply going to save that money for a different variety.

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Wow
That's a mouthful coming from you CV I think all your prices for your variety coins on e-bay are off the wall and way over priced for the said variety you are trying to sell.
I know for a fact that I wouldn't let the one I have go for any less I would probably want more and ask for more than $1,000.00 not everyone is going to get one as there are very few known to date.

But I also agree that a lot of dealers and collectors don't really think its important to have one and also don't think its important about the single N
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