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7070 Used To Be Such A Big Deal, Is It Still

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I used to see a conversation posted almost daily about 7070 albums. Is that still a thing? What is everyone's approach to completing it if so?

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A lot of people still do them. I own and am in the process of completing a type set, however mine is slabbed for display and safety purposes.
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I'm about 5 coins from completion... Obviously the most expensive ones... LOL
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I have both a slabbed set and an album which are both not yet completed although mostly complete. I have selected anywhere from F-15 to MS-67 graded coins for the graded set and I try to acquire nice problem free examples with above average eye appeal.
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After seeing this post I thought I'd make a list of what my set would include. I have a few earlier US coins and tokens that are earlier than the 7070 includes that are not on here and some US medals I could add on. Those in bold, I don't have yet.

But I would be OK with just adding a St Gaudens and a Princess three dollar and that would at least cover most all the designs.
I don't have an Innovation Dollar yet. LOL

Draped Bust Half Cent (1800-08)

Classic Head Half Cent (1809-35)

Coronet Half Cent (1849-57)

Draped Bust Large Cent (1796-1807)

Classic Head Cent (1808-14)

Coronet Large Cent (1816-39)

Coronet Braided Hair Cent (1840-57)

Flying Eagle cent (1857-58)

Indian Head cent Laurel Wreath (1859)

Indian Head cent Copper-Nickel Oak Wreath (1860-64)

Indian Head cent Bronze Oak Wreath (1864-1909)

Lincoln Head Cent VDB (1909)

Lincoln Head Cent Bronze Wheat Heads (1909-58)

Lincoln Head Cent Steel (1943)

Lincoln Head Cent Memorial (1959-Date)

Lincoln Bicentennial Cents (2009)

Lincoln Shield cent (2010-Date)

2C Piece Bronze (1864-72)

3C Piece Silver (1851-73)

3C Piece Nickel (1865-89)

Capped Bust Half Dime (1829-37)

Liberty Seated half dime No Stars (1837-38)

Liberty Seated half dime Drapery (1837-59)

Liberty Seated half dime Arrows (1853-55)

Liberty Seated half dime Legend (1860-73)

Shield nickel Rays (1866-67)

Shield nickel No Rays (1867-83)

Liberty Head Nickel No Cents (1883)

Liberty Head Nickel Cents (1883-1912)

Buffalo nickel Variety I (1913)

Buffalo nickel Variety II (1913-1938)

Jefferson nickel (1938-Date)

Jefferson nickel 35% Silver (1942-45)

Jefferson Westward Journey Nickels (2004-2005)

Jefferson Return to Monticello Nickel (2006-Date)

Capped Bust Dime Variety II (1828-37)

Liberty Seated dime No Stars (1837-38)

Liberty Seated dime Stars (1838-60)

Liberty Seated dime Arrows (1853-55)

Liberty Seated dime Legend (1860-91)

Liberty Head Dime (1892-1916)

Mercury dime (1916-45)

Roosevelt dime Silver (1946-64)

Roosevelt dime Clad (1965-Date)

Liberty Seated 20C Piece (1875-78)

Capped Bust quarter (1831-38)

Liberty Seated quarter No Motto (1838-65)

Liberty Seated quarter Arrows and Rays (1853)

Liberty Seated quarter Arrows (1854-55)

Liberty Seated quarter Motto (1866-91)

Liberty Head Quarter (1892-1916)

Commemorative Isabella Quarter (1893)

Standing Liberty quarter Variety I (1916-17)

Standing Liberty quarter Variety II (1917-30)

Washington quarter Silver (1932-64)

Washington quarter Clad (1965-Date)

Bicentennial Washington quarter (1976)

50 State Commemorative Quarter (1999-2008)

DC and United States Territory Quarter (2009)

America the Beautiful Quarter (2010-2021)

Capped Bust half dollar Lettered Edge (1807-36)

Capped Bust half dollar Reeded Edge (1836-39)

Liberty Seated half dollar No Motto (1839-65)

Liberty Seated half dollar Arrows and Rays (1853)

Liberty Seated half dollar Arrows (1854-55)

Liberty Seated half dollar Motto (1866-91)

Liberty Head Half Dollar (1892-1915)

Walking Liberty half dollar (1916-47)

Franklin half dollar (1948-63)

Kennedy half dollar Silver (1964)

Kennedy half dollar Silver Clad (1965-1970)

Kennedy half dollar Clad (1971-Date)

Bicentennial Kennedy half dollar (1976)

Bicentennial Kennedy Silver Half Dollar (1976)

Commemorative Half Dollar (1892-1954)

Modern Commemorative Half Dollar (1982-Date)

Liberty Seated dollar No Motto (1840-65)

Liberty Seated dollar Motto (1866-73)

Trade dollar (1873-83)

Morgan dollar (1878-1921)

Peace dollar (1921-35)

Eisenhower dollar (1971-78)

Bicentennial Eisenhower dollar (1976)

Bicentennial Eisenhower Silver Dollar (1976)

Modern Commemorative Dollar (1983-Date)

Silver American Eagle (1986-Date)

Susan B. Anthony dollar (1979-99)

Sacagawea dollar (2000-2008)

Presidential dollar (2007-Date)

Native American dollar (2009-Date)

American Innovation dollar (2018-2032)

Gold Coronet Dollar (1849-54)

Gold Indian Princess Dollar (1854-89)

Liberty Head Quarter Eagle (1840-1907)

Indian Quarter Eagle (1908-29)

Gold Indian Princess Three Dollar (1854-89)

Liberty Head Half Eagle (1839-1908)

Indian Head Half Eagle (1908-29)

Liberty Head Eagle (1838-1907)

Indian Head Eagle (1908-33)

Liberty Head Double Eagle (1850-1907)

St. Gaudens Double Eagle (1907-1932)


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First, I like the idea of a type set and that's what a 7070 is all about.
My only complaint about the 7070 is that IMO it isn't complete.
Go to NGC and look at their Registry Set type set.
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All completed with the Dansco 7070, just need to upgrade.
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Thanks for the feedback yall. I have a 7070 that I havnt unwrapped yet and thought what the heck. Might as well start. What is the most expensive coin in the set? Might as well start looking for that one now.
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...and to clarify. What is the cheapest most expensive coin in the set, you know what I mean. Like I'm not going to put a 1922d in for the cent. I'm obviously going to use the best example of the most common date. So what is the most common date of the most expensive coin. I guess that is what I'm asking.
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Most people would say Trade dollars or Seated dollars for most expensive. Didn't make a difference to me because I did everything high grade and slabbed

Alternatively, you can view that set (and its upgrades) here: http://goccf.com/t/359443&whichpage=1
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Most expensive depends on what your minimum grade is going to be. A good goal for the 7070 set is everything VF or better. At that level your most expensive coin is probably going to be the Classic head cent. A true problem free nicely struck VF Classic, even for a common date, can easily set you back 4 figures. It will also probably be the toughest coin to locate. Classics tend to come either mushy, low grade, or with problems. Even a significant number of the straight graded and even CACed coins at this level (VF or better) still have problems that would get them detail grades if they were any other series. TRUELY problem free coins are TOUGH. And if you find one they are expensive.

One of the nice things about the 7070 is that it can be put together, in nice grade by most collectors, Other than the Classic head cent there aren't any real stoppers in the set. And the set also lends itself to a "budget" approach for small collectors. There are I think something like 76 coins in the album. If you get one coin a month, it will take about 6 years to complete the set. Not an overly long time. Next set a budget per coin. If you can afford it $100 makes a nice figure. Now here is the trick. Take a box and every month you will put $100 in that box, and the money for all purchases for the set comes out of that box. If you spend less than the $100 that month the extra rolls over into the next month and builds up for the more expensive coins. The key is to buy the common coins early so the excess for buying the expensive ones builds up faster. So for the first 12 months you are buying high grade cheap coins, At the end of the year, your set is close to 20% complete but nothing overly impressive. But there is now enough money in that box to get that Classic head cent! The next year repeat the process, buy the less expensive coins in better grade and let the excess money rollover. At the end of the year use that extra to buy the next most expensive coin. And if it cost less than the money in the box, that rolls over into the next year as well. As the years progress and the coins you buy each month cost more the excess in the box will grow slower, but by the time you are reaching the point where the monthly coins cost more than $100, the excess you need for each month will most likely be in the box already. (And the "expensive coin at the end of the years is getting less expensive each year) I budgeted $100 a month but probably 2/3 of the coins in the set will cost well less than that each month, so the money is there early for the expensive coins to keep you motivated and also there as you need the extra when you are reaching completion. I'm pretty sure a 7070 set can be put together in VF or better for less than $7,600.
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Thanks again yall. Still trying to figure out how to comment and respond on mobil but I certainly appreciate the feedback. I like the budgeting strategy. I dont like the idea of one coin costing 1000s and the others not. Hmmm.... the reality is I need to go through what I have and put them in their places. I've always wanted a Trade dollar. Maybe I'll start there.
Then again I guess one day I could hope to get a vf head cent. At least then that gives me an idea what to do for the others.
So let's say that I set a goal to build a vf set. Do you get vf in everything, even the cheap common coins. Like spend the money on a vf silver eagle just so everything is vf?
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That is what makes this hobby interesting. So many possible variations. Myself, I put together a Whitman 20th Century type set. After that I got bored with type sets. However, so many others love them.
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So let's say that I set a goal to build a vf set. Do you get vf in everything, even the cheap common coins. Like spend the money on a vf silver eagle just so everything is vf?

I would treat it as a minimum. Do you really want a vf State Quarter in your album? Or a vf shield cent?

It may be a little odd seeing a vf example on the same page as a bu example, but personally I think it would be odder to see such easily acquired coins in such relatively low grades.

This is where eye appeal comes in. Not all vf look the same, so aim for those that look the best to you, without breaking your budget.
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Great advice from Condor 101. This is largely how I completed my 7070, both in terms of the budgeting approach and the VF or better approach.

When doing VF or better, I did allow for exceptions. I am not going to put a $1000+ cent into my 7070, so I settled on a nice G4 instead. It's old, of course it's worn!

I tried to go with a progression so that older coins might be in lower grades like VF, progressing to AU and UNC coins as you get into the newer dates. I think it makes a nice presentation but there's lots of options on how you want to build your set.

In terms of the cheapest coin, a number of holes can be filled from circulation. So one cent would be the cheapest for the Lincoln Memorial. I filled the modern slots from a 1973 uncirculated mint set that my dad gave me when I was a kid (I used the D mints).

The Seated dollars were the most expensive and I also had a hard time finding a 20 cent piece and a Capped Bust Reeded Edge half that I liked.

My 7070 has been done for a while now but I have still been doing the occasional upgrade if I see something nice.

It's a great set and I had a lot of fun doing it.
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