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sel_69l, I think the same goes for most of the world. In Europe, slabbing is seen as an American habit. The coins sold by the leading European auction houses are more than 99% unslabbed.
I may get flamed for this - but so be it. Growing up and having 50 years in the States has "larned me a thang or tooo."
When slabbing started, I saw it as just a way [ouch - here it comes] for the inventors of the system to take advantage of US people. After all, the US public is notorious for parting with money easily.
Remember the pet rock fad? Where else but in the US would people be
dumb enough (oops)
willing to buy a rock in a box at a store b/c, "everyone else is doing it!"
No - I am not saying slabbing was/is equivalent to pet rocks. But I am saying when it was started, it seemed to me as if someone had just found another way manipulate a hobby to make money from it. Friends and I even joked about, "What next? Will people be
dumb enough willing to pay a place to verify what the grading services did to the coin?"
Oops - sound familiar? A green bean!
And sorry for any offense - but this was what we said at the time!
BTW - what color will the next level of bean be?
However, now that the services have been around for so long; and a lot of new collectors have been around only in the days when slabbed coins have been a part of the hobby, it seems what started out as a service with somewhat questionable necessity has become legitimate in a majority of the hobby's eyes.
Although I still talk with dealers who were around before all of the slabbing started who think, like myself, TPGs hurt the hobby a great deal. Gone are the days when individual silver coins were worth something depending on their mintage/scarcity. Now most coins that are not a key or semi key are only worth melt - unless in fantastic condition. Part of the fun used to be finding coins with lower mintage - although not necessarily rare.
It used to be it was good enough to have a 1950D nickel. But now, unless it has full steps on it there is always (for some) that little nagging voice in their mind that says, "upgrade, upgrade, upgrade! Yours is not
perfect!"
Europeans have always, it seems, been a bit more frugal and have not thrown their money around like we do over here. Over the years I have seen many instances where they did not "fall for" the name brand game (although I see this changing), but seemed to better research what they were buying/doing. I used to attribute it to the cost of living (whether right or wrong, I cannot prove) differences since the US people have always seemed to have more "disposable cash" on hand.
Now before I get a lot of negative, I also want to say that as of last week, I sent in a few coins to b graded/slabbed!
Why?
No one in my family knows anything about coins except me. Since the time has come in our culture where slabbed coins are part of the norm, the "certification" the slab seems to bestow upon the coin (to most people) will make it such that my family would get proper returns for the coins if they would wish to sell them. I may as well take advantage of the situation to my benefit.
I personally think if they would get on the ball and make a computer/scanner machine do the grading, while making the grading algorithms available for anyone to inspect, then the system could become a lot more reliable. The tech has been available for years.
Hey, c'mon, we even have face recognition in some of our computers now for personal pictures. Since a desktop computer can ID something as differeing as human faces, surely the uniformity of coin dies could be recognized and/or scrutinized - without personal objectives and human error - by a machine. So why has no
TPG established this? I know at least one of them said something about it in the 90's but it went nowhere.
The tech is such that a computer coin grading system might be able to be done at home by the right person. Come to think of it... anyone up for starting a business?

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