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1924-S Standing Liberty Quarter. You Vs PCGS

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Hi,

Here are the Trueviews, how would you grade this one?

1924-S-Standing-Liberty-Quarter.-You-Vs-PCGS
1924-S-Standing-Liberty-Quarter.-You-Vs-PCGS

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 Posted 01/01/2021  11:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lots of scratches on the reverse in all directions. Perhaps form (old) cleaning?
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Extensive die polishing and some strike weakness, but decent luster. I'd say MS-62.
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Extensive die polishing and some strike weakness, but decent luster.

But I say MS-64
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Just guessing on this one but the Eagles left wing looks like some rub on the high point? How bout a very nice AU58
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Agree with die polishing lines, I'll say MS-64, probably FH.
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MS64
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This coin looks original , so it must pretty extensive die polishing . A lot of weakness on obverse but I'm not saying it's the strike . Could it be a few dabs of grease here and there that got onto the planchet ? I really don't want to give this coin an MS-64 but I'm leaning that way . IMHO .
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There's a lot going on here. The extensive die polishing is common, but complicates grading from pics. A few quick notes:
1924-S is a condition scarcity coin. MS-64 is fairly common, but values escalate dramatically above MS-61.
JH Cline estimated that very few 1924-S coins will qualify for FH designation. That said, PCGS pins FH labels on some coins that should not be designated FH.
FH is only part of the strike issue. There should be full rivets on the shield and a full inner shield, full toes, all four buttons on the gown, and breast and wing feathers on the eagle.

Here, die polishing has obliterated much of the inner shield, toes, and reverse detail. The hairline is not complete, the three leaves are weak, and the rivets are weak. On the other hand, the buttons are present, the fold is crisp, and there are other details that look sharp.

There are several contact marks that stand out. On the obverse, there is a prominent NE-SW scratch across the shield, upper left leg (our visual right), and stomach. In addition, there are several small contact marks on the cheek, left leg, and in the peripheral devices. On the reverse, there are two fairly recent scratches NW-SE from the eagle's left wing (our visual right) and some smaller contact marks at 8:00-9:00. There may be a rim hit around 6:30.

I don't see evidence of wear. There seems to be light toning on the NE quadrant of the obverse and throughout the reverse. The toning does not appear to be disrupted.

I'm at MS-63, not FH.

For a 1924-S, that's a really nice coin.
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MS63 without a close up of the head its hard to call FH on this one but its pretty close
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MS-63, just misses FH
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Hate to go against the majority here (of which I would consider pros)but I'm seeing things that bring me to...AU58
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Those of you at AU-58 could very well be right on this one. Grading from the not-very-TrueView pics is tough.

I think we're all in the same camp here. It's either AU-58 or MS-63/64, and the pics aren't enough to tell.
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