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1970-D Nickel Proofs?

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I've been going through my grandpa's coins again. Among the nickels, there was a bank roll of nickels (you know, the kind where the ends are rolled by some kind of machine rather than folded by hand?). Someone (I think my stepdad, who went thru the coins after Grandpa died) wrote 1970 D and U for uncirculated. The coins at the ends of the roll looked really reflective, so I opened the roll to take a look at them (I worry that was a mistake now, but I wouldn't have known what I had without doing it).

Anyway, these nickels, which are 1970D, look very prooflike. VERY mirrored surfaces and polished to a bright shine I haven't seen on business strike coins (admittedly the nickels I've been going through were circulated coins Grandpa pulled out of the till at his service station, so they're pretty grungy and banged up). Here are some photos.

What do you guys think? (And yes, those are my poor fingers. I degrunged some of the nickels with acetone, and used my bare fingers to fish them out of the bath.)

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No proof nickels from the Denver mint were made.I think you might be confusing proof as a grade when it is a minting process.Also.first two pics looks like the coin is in a holder, Please Everyone Remove Coin From Holders Whenever Possible Before Taking Photos.
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Looks pretty shiny to me, with a few stray circulation marks and rim ticks. I agree not a proof though.
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Any of those shiny Nic's have fully defined steps on the reverse or are they kind of mushy?
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They are MS not Proof . I now would put them in a plastic Nickel tube .
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No to the circulation marks, because I guarantee these were never circulated. I'm positive Grandpa got these straight from the Central Bank and Trust Co (the name on the roll), right after they were minted; he did that sometimes. And it really does look like the mint polished these coins as if they were proofs. I've never seen nickels this mirrored except in proof sets. I didn't see any FS, but I was going to see if I could find my magnifying lens and get a better look today. I'll get a couple pics if I can find the lens.

And HECK no to the coin tube!! Now that they're out of the roll, I'm preserving them in the condition they were found in. They're too pretty to mess up.
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"circulation marks" can happen just after the coin is struck and drops into the "storage bin" below and also in the hopper to the coin rolling machine. As far as the shiny fields go, the newer the die the cleared the fields.
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Or bag marks. Nice coins but not proof.
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I once got lucky with a few 1970 D rolls of Uncirculated Jefferson nickels at face from a bank in my days of roll searching. Only a dozen or so had more than a couple steps. Out of those, none had full steps of course, but I think I saved the best and made up a roll in a tube. The very best half dozen or so had perhaps 3 to 4.5 steps which are quite unusual to find on this issue.

If you can't find a full step nickel on the tougher dates, close to 5 or whatever best ones you do find are still good to keep.
It's kinda like playing horseshoes for me where close still counts.
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I save the close ones too.
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Definitely beautiful, but definitely not a proof.
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Thanks to everyone who replied. Not that I'd grade these, but I'm curious: has anyone seen a nickel grade as prooflike because of reflective surfaces like this?
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has anyone seen a nickel grade as prooflike (sic) because of reflective surfaces like this?


Well not with modern U.S. coins, as proofs are only made at the San Francisco mint where business strikes are not made anymore.

But with Philly coins in the early '60's and before? maybe. But not likely due to the difference in the minting process and handling of the proof coins.
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Thanks, Deerborn. But now I'm confused. I thought the point of a PL or DMPL grade on coins like Morgans is that it looks like a proof even though it's not. How is that different for modern coins that are really mirrored even tho they're business strike?
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