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New Member
United States
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Hi everybody, I could use some input on this nickle. Does it look real or fake? The rim has a beveled edge all the way around on both sides, it is a bit off center the bevel at the same spot on both sides. The beveled edge is very precise and like it is almost very sharp. If it looks to be real, what is a guesstimated grade? Thanks for any input on this coin. If more pictures are needed let me know and I will do my best. Thanks for any and all input    |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Unfortunately, a poorly done fake. None of the die markers are there to a genuine example. Do to die wear, there are three markers that need to be there. The "pee" stream below the Bisons belly, the deteriorated hind leg from excessive die polishing, and there should also be separation noticeable, although sometimes more subtle in some examples I've seen with the smallest feather from the hair and neckline. The first two are not apparent on the example you posted. The last, is slightly noticeable on your example, but this just implies a later die state obverse from die polishing.
Also, there should be a portion of the front leg still visible, there is no hoof remaining on your example.
Edit: no comment on the bevel, not sure what someone was trying to accomplish here. Thickness also looks off. A cast?
Hard pass on this one.
Edited by Ty2020b
09/05/2021 02:25 am
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New Member
 United States
8 Posts |
How sure are you it's a fake? The P & U aren't touching the back...? I was told that because of the bevelled edge issue caused by the upset mill, that it causes a lighter print on the coins and so that is why the kneck one is lightly there and that the pee and leg could be missing or faint.... I'm in no way any expert,just trying to figure this coin out. I thought it was a fake too at first. But I've kinda questioned it.
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New Member
United States
8 Posts |
It weights 5 grams exactly and measures 21.2 mm across and I compared to a regular 4 legged 1937 nickel I have and both were the same. The thickness looks the same on both except at the very edge of it. The 3 legged one is a hair thicker as there is a slight rim around it or lip on both sides like its dished a little bit. Any and all help is greatly appreciated
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4680 Posts |
I'm 110% it's a fake. The logic in their explanation is flawed. How can a weak strike cause a lack of noticeable Die Deterioration in the hind leg? It's a die state issue, not a strike issue. Compare this example to known genuine examples, pay close attention to the missing front leg, or rather what is still visible of that leg. There is a consistency there with what is still remaining. Not the case on the one posted. If this is a modified 37-d, someone went overboard! |
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New Member
United States
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I hear what your saying. I've looked but can't find any pictures of any known fake ones, can only find pictures of modified ones that show obvious grinding or polishing marks or the P & U touching the back. Which it doesn't look like this one was ground or polished.
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New Member
United States
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http://goccf.com/t/26132The lipped rim is kinda like this one in the link above but not as obvious but is there and it is on both sides and with the bevelled edge / lip going downwards to the edge and makes the edge narrow around the circumference. It's odd for sure. Anyone near NE Iowa able to check it out?
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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It is clearly a counterfeit.
There are known markers on both the obverse and reverse on a genuine three leg nickel, none of which show on your coin.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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To bad it's not real. Nice coin though.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
Clearly a fake, agree. As noted, lacks the die markers.  to the CCF! |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
19120 Posts |
At the risk of piling on, I'm thinking fake.
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Moderator
 United States
54280 Posts |
The bevel is irrelevant.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Obvious tooling of a normal 37D, looks like it was placed in some kind of rotatable vice. Maybe some kind of engravers power tool then polished, especially in the fields of the reverse.
Looks like the tool made an Ooops under the Indians chin.
I suspect it was centered and spun to grind off the rim to edge at an angle too.
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New Member
United States
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I'm trying to get the best pictures I can using my cheap cell phones 4x zoom and a magnifying glass under it. It looks rough under the buffalo and looks to me it matches all the way around the coin. I don't see any polishing. If someone can help point out it would be greatly appreciated. As for the Indian top back part of the kneck, you can feel the indents with a finger nail there and see them in person, just the camera is barely picking it up.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Coming at it from a different angle, your pics suggest that the coin is far too bright for its wear level (low/med VF). Always a warning sign.
Edited by Coinfrog
09/05/2021 12:20 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
21586 Posts |
No matter how many pictures you take is not going
to alter the fact that it is not a genuine 3 leg Buffalo.
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Posted 09/05/2021 02:37 am
