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My gut feeling is also Made in China.
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Made in China? hmm possibly. what ever/how ever it was made, it did not come from the mint that way (My opinion here)
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My first thought is, how did the blank land perfectly in the middle of the bottom die. At least it looks like it's centered. And a nickel thickness wouldn't strike up as well. I'm going to say it was machined down from a real half. Also, the devices aren't falling off of the edge like they would be without the collar limiting the spread.
Edited by Cujohn
07/17/2023 4:11 pm
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punched out of the original coin Quote:What you have is a Seated Liberty dollar that has been cut down to nickel size Then it would be silver, not copper-nickel. It wouldn't weigh 4.98 grams. Show your financial support of the Coin Community Family (click here)See my topic on Mexican Numismatic Medals (click here) |
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OP said that specific gravity matches 90% Ag
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Sorry for the confusion, I've just repeated the specific gravity test using thinner cotton and more accurate scales.
Results are 8.87 which would indicate copper nickel alloy, that and it ringing out like a British 10p and not a silver coin, I would say it's not silver.
Mesuring calipers due tomorrow.
Thanks everyone.
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You said you purchased this, who did you purchase from and what did you pay?
There are several marks to show that this isn't a real error, for example the image is almost centered, that would almost never happen with an error, the coin would have a warped protocol rim from the die and it would spread out.
Chances (99.99%) are it just a fake, but you said you purchased it, so tell us who you purchased it from, what it cost, what they told you it was?
I have guys in NYC offering me Rolex watches all the time, they look like a Rolex but I'm pretty certain they aren't a Rolex. Same with this thing (it's not a coin)
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07/18/2023 09:07 am
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I purchased it from ebay, from someone who was splitting up a collection of American coins, I'm in the UK, it was sold as an 'unusual coin' that they did not know anything about. If it's a fake, counterfeit, novelty, made to deceive, or just for fun I'm OK with that.. but it seems a little too good. I do not know about the process for minting coins, but I am watching videos and learning, it does have some flattening around the edge of the coin, but it doesn't have a rim, things I've never look at before when I've been researching it. If there was someone in the UK who specialised in American error coins, I'd take it to them, but so far I have found anyone. I have since bought a fake of Ali Express to compare them, and within seconds you can tell it's a fake, this one's a little 'better' if that's the right word. Edited by TotallyConfused
07/18/2023 09:46 am
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Not possible for several reasons: The nickel would not be round if struck in a dollar die. The die spacing for a dollar would be wider than for a nickel so the strike would be extremely weak. Sorry, this is just not possible.
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Not possible for several reasons: The nickel would not be round if struck in a dollar die. Half Dime planchet struck with a half dollar die, it's round and 100% legit. So almost not possible.  |
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Quote: Half Dime planchet struck with a half dollar die, it's round and 100% legit. So almost not possible. Yes and then look at your picture and then his. The design flowed outward, there is no stop to the design until there is no more metal. His coin looks like it was cut almost, the design ends before the metal ends. You can also see that your example is not round. Where there is design (like the seal or feathers) there is metal outflow, where there is no design (blank space) no metal outflow. Edited by hfjacinto
07/18/2023 12:11 pm
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Yes and then look at your picture and then his. The design flowed outward, there is no stop to the design until there is no more metal. His coin looks like it was cut almost, the design ends before the metal ends. You missed my entire point, but as long as you put me in my place I guess. |
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I didn't put you in your place. You made a comment and honestly your picture nailed that his is a fake.
Look at your picture and his.
The one part that I don't agree with you is that you said the coin posted is round, well it's almost round. You can see the flow lines. Again a perfect example of why your picture is so valuable to cases like this, it shows the little things that counterfeiters miss.
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07/18/2023 12:54 pm
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Forum Dad
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well it's almost round. It's most certainly round enough that tons of people would say it couldn't be struck with a bigger die. I could post this on FB and 30 people would say it before the sun goes down. I was just trying to prove a point that round doesn't automatically mean fake. Same thing with reversed lettering and designs. 90% immediately say it must be fake, vise or glue job. I have people on Facebook that have blocked me because I correct people. Every. Single. Time. |
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